City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

Roachy said:
Possibly. In relation to the ruling and the immediate aftermath of the ruling though, I think the PL were either incredibly naive or totally arrogant in thinking a tweak of the rules here or there would suffice. It will be very interesting what happens next.
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Not sure we are making a big enough deal out of it, tbh. If the APT rules are unlawful because they don't take into account interest on shareholder loans and are therefore null and void as City claim, then the same is also true of FFP/PSR for the same reasons.

Can you imagine the trouble that will cause. Points reinstated, league positions changed, claims for damages, 25 of the 115 allegations thrown out straight away. All sorts of unforeseen consequences. It will be fascinating to see what the tribunal says in its final award.

:)

I always wondered why Martin Samuel was talking about the demise of FFP/PSR in his first article about the APT judgment. Maybe he was well briefed ......

...... or maybe I am talking bollocks. :P
 
Nothing other than a structural reorganisation and refit,followed by an active and vigorous Regulator, will drain the swamp and build confidence in their ability to run the league.

Masters and the board,who are guilty of a dereliction of duty and incompetence,
will all have to be replaced by independent appointees.

The entire rule book will need to be independently reviewed and re written.

There are undoubtedly other matters that will need sorting,the principle one being that the cartel's malignant influence is stopped....

'Once and for all' !!
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not sure we are making a big enough deal out of it, tbh. If the APT rules are unlawful because they don't take into account interest on shareholder loans and are therefore null and void as City claim, then the same is also true of FFP/PSR for the same reasons.

Can you imagine the trouble that will cause. Points reinstated, league positions changed, claims for damages, 25 of the 115 allegations thrown out straight away. All sorts of unforeseen consequences. It will be fascinating to see what the tribunal says in its final award.

:)

I always wondered why Martin Samuel was talking about the demise of FFP/PSR in his first article about the APT judgment. Maybe he was well briefed ......

...... or maybe I am talking bollocks. :P
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This is completely true. I'm a total layman in relation to all this, but I do know that once something is deemed unlawful it can take a very long time to create and apply a suitable remedy.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not sure we are making a big enough deal out of it, tbh. If the APT rules are unlawful because they don't take into account interest on shareholder loans and are therefore null and void as City claim, then the same is also true of FFP/PSR for the same reasons.

Can you imagine the trouble that will cause. Points reinstated, league positions changed, claims for damages, 25 of the 115 allegations thrown out straight away. All sorts of unforeseen consequences. It will be fascinating to see what the tribunal says in its final award.

:)

I always wondered why Martin Samuel was talking about the demise of FFP/PSR in his first article about the APT judgment. Maybe he was well briefed ......

...... or maybe I am talking bollocks. :P
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Are you sure that follows I am not PSR is different to APT
 
Stoned Rose said:
Did anything come of the challenge we made in relation to the “14 votes is enough” rule?
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I thought it was something reported by the press when Arsenal leaked details to the press earlier this year, but don't remember seeing it mentioned in the panels judgement. It was probably a load of bollocks. But I may be wrong.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I don't know. What do you think this means?

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PSR and FFP pre date ATP so I don’t see how they have to back date anything or strike down FFP or PSR ATP is just a part of those rules. The premier league either brought in ATP for sinister reasons or to stop people circumventing PSR that’s not the same as the rules being so linked as to me the same or so similar that one being unlawful that the other is especially when in theory ATP can be re worked
 
WRicko said:
PSR and FFP pre date ATP so I don’t see how they have to back date anything or strike down FFP or PSR ATP is just a part of those rules. The premier league either brought in ATP for sinister reasons or to stop people circumventing PSR that’s not the same as the rules being so linked as to me the same or so similar that one being unlawful that the other is especially when in theory ATP can be re worked
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OK. We will see soon enough.
 
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