City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[bobbyowenquiff]

" What will it take for City fans to accept Abu Dhabi's charmless reign is a terrible look for their club ? "

The latest piece from Herbert in the DM no doubt supported and paid for by the redshirt/spurs / yank owner alliance.

Herbert doing his level best to shift the emphasis from the real villains of the piece, ie the mardarse clubs who are losing out to City both financially and in sporting achievements.

Hurting ?

What does he mean by Abu Dhabi's charmless reign? It doesn't make any sense given that City are owned by Sheikh Mansour (75pc) and US investors Silver Lake (25pc). Is he suggesting that all of Abu Dhabi is charmless, the entire population, every single person. Why would he say something like that? Is it because, as Alf Garnett used to say: "They are all the same aren't they"?

 

[cheekybids]

Found this interesting from ‘The Sponsor’ dated June 24. Shows what they believe to be fair market value.

According to the article we are overvalued on the main Etihad deal by £2.7m pa.

Not a train smash you might think but what’s the betting we went in asking for more for this deal and were knocked back.

Another interesting facet is that the article suggests Utd are massively undervalued and the usual red top suspects deserve the best deals coz of their istory etc.

Revealed: Premier League Fair Market Sponsorship Valuations 2024 - The Sponsor

This article contains the fair market valuations of all 20 Premier League clubs. How does your club compare?

www.thesponsor.com

If the Dippers & Rags could get that then they’d have got it. What a pile of shit.

Samuel has a better idea of why a company would sponsor & what it’s value is to them.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I’ve posted this before but …

He’s not everyone’s cup of tea I know but I knew John Benson well and he was really sound. The City job was too much for him.
He once told me he went for an interview with Palace and was invited to meet the peroxide chap on a brash floating gin palace.
Arriving on time he was kept waiting for nearly two hours whilst he listened to peroxide man yapping loud gossipy crap on his phone in another part of the boat.
John stood up to leave and peroxide’s assistant said ‘ he won’t be long and should be free in a minute.”

John replied as he walked out “tell him I’ve got better things to do, he’s got my number if he wants to come and meet me somewhere of my choosing.”

Hope any JB haters find a way to like him a tad more for this.

Well done John Benson. I walked out before an interview once after they kept me waiting for almost an hour without even an offer of a cup of tea. I just decided I didn't want to work for such an organisation and fortunately I had the choice because I was already in a job somewhere else.

 

[Son of Merv]

Not sure that’s comparing like for like, that reads like they’re taking the entire of the Etihad deal and applying it only to front of shirt sponsorship.

Etihad deal is reportedly closer to £80m, so this is, supposedly, just the shirt bit. Stadium naming is about £15m.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Not sure that’s comparing like for like, that reads like they’re taking the entire of the Etihad deal and applying it only to front of shirt sponsorship.

I think the most recent analysis is that the total Etihad sponsorship is 80 million, being 15 naming rights and 65 shirt front. Not sure how accurate that is, but you can imagine it going up with everything the club has won in the last couple of years.

There is a lot of soul-searching around sponsorship but the club's commercial to broadcast revenue ratio isn't out of line with other major clubs.

 

[waspish]

Etihad deal is reportedly closer to £80m, so this is, supposedly, just the shirt bit. Stadium naming is about £15m.

The Etihad sponsor isn't associated so it also proves that none associated is still get looked at for fair value! You read or see in the media that we win the case we could have a sponsor that could give us 500m a season!

 

[Impeccable One]

Did I read somewhere that PL APT rules also apply to transfers ? such that City couldn’t buy on the cheap from another CFG team and also couldn’t sell on an inflated value to another CFG team, with the onus being on City to prove the values are appropriate ? and if the PL decided the values were not correct they could adjust what City are allowed to spend ?

 

[mancboy]

If the Dippers & Rags could get that then they’d have got it. What a pile of shit.

Samuel has a better idea of why a company would sponsor & what it’s value is to them.

This and only this is what the system cannot work, value is entirely subjective, what is of value to you may not be of value to me and vice versa and no singular person or independent entity has the right, experience or skillset to decide what is value or not.

 

[Blu1]

So now villa are considering legal action against prem league & its okay because they are only considering it where as city are doing it! Fook me I’m in the twighlight zone

 

[halfcenturyup]

The thing that gets me about these APT rules (along with the definition and the club's requirement to prove FMV, which are both on shaky ground, I would imagine) is that the PL don't just want to adjust the income if they think it is overstated (which is already fraught with difficulty), they want the club and the sponsor to alter the terms of the sponsorship contract or cancel it(!).

I can't imagine it's legal for a regulatory body to tell two independent companies which commercial contracts they can enter into, and on what terms. I find it hard to believe any tribunal will allow a third party to do that?

I may be wrong, of course, but surely not?