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City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)
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halfcenturyup
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I'm pretty sure I read those names somewhere before the arbitration kicked off? They certainly sound familiar and I remember looking them up. Can't find it now, though. Maybe getting old .....
One thing is for sure, the chance of an appeal being heard is next to zero with those guys involved.
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That’s a blast from the past, although I recall it was the Silver Birch or am I missing something?He's gone soft. The Silver Berch is laughing at him.
Silver birch played football for them back in the 90sThat’s a blast from the past, although I recall it was the Silver Birch or am I missing something?
Not everything is a conspiracy, why would 3 retired judges want to damage their reputation to side with the PL?Is that good or - as they’re retired - are they more likely to toe the PL line
This either a PL law that is wrong or its not.
Yeah. Just getting paranoid :-)Not everything is a conspiracy, why would 3 retired judges want to damage their reputation to side with the PL?
This either a PL law that is wrong or its not.
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Interesting tweet from Stefan re the APT case - doesn't think we'll be successful
Was always an uphill battle, because the PL has the ability to write their own rules and enforce them at their discretion.
City basically asking for a hands off approach to the whole notion of commercial revenues and the deals that create them, which is a high bar to get over. What those deals are worth has to be gauged by someone and it can’t be the club being left to determine fair value.
Feels like a small spuds amuse bouche for the 115, which is the main course!
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Interesting tweet from Stefan re the APT case - doesn't think we'll be successful
Doesn’t tie in with “City have had some successes” script that was trotted out by Zeigler.
halfcenturyup
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Interesting tweet from Stefan re the APT case - doesn't think we'll be successful
No lawyer, but .....
I think the difference is that the salary cap in the Saracens case was applied equally across all clubs in the league. The APT rules, as can be shown by the timing of their introduction and the definition of associated party, unfairly affect clubs that have a certain type of owner and a consequent type of business model.
I don't know if the club really has the goal of having the whole set of APT rules thrown out (if they wanted that they could have tried that between November 2023 and February 2024, for example). I suppose they could, though, and if they do they will probably not be successful for the stated reasons (which are probably also the reasons FFP itself has never been challenged).
I think it is more likely the club are aiming to have the more discriminatory rules and definitions changed to more generic terms that apply equally irrespective of who the owners care and what the business model is. They could have success there, I think (and let's not forget there were rules around the value of related party transactions before the APT rules, it's not like there isn't a fall-back position for the PL).
Which may be why some press reports say some wins and some defeats for both parties.
By the way, this doesn't mean that the club isn't asking for an assessment of the whole rule set. Why not aim high? I am suggesting their goal is to remove the discriminatory and unnecessarily burdensome nature of the February rule changes to the club and other clubs in the same situation.