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City now 9th Ranked by UEFA
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bigf42
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Cheers. I looked at the UEFA listing to see what it was.
The coefficients are worked out on a rolling 5 year basis. As the season ended, at the start of July (ish), it is just pushed from 2013-17 to 2014-18, and that's dropped Chelsea and Arsenal down the listing.
At the end of 2013-17, Chelsea, Arsenal and City were 10th, 11th and 12th. Our 2013 performance was noticeably worse than either of theirs, so they lost more points when moving a year on.
Hope that makes sense.
Since the top pot of CL seeds are now league winners, it doesn't really make much difference as long as you're in the first 16 or so* - win the PL or CL and be in Pot 1; don't win the PL or CL and be in Pot 2.
*I say 16 or so, as at least one of the pot 1 seeds is likely to have a coeff lower than City, and there's a good chance that more than one of the top 16 will miss out on the CL completely. [edited as I went the wrong way with some of it]
Still nice though, and difficult for the press not to point out.
More concerning is that the gap between Italy and England is tiny, and a crap season could see the 4th CL place go.
I think it's unlikely that Italy will overtake England. This season there are 5 in the CL with only Liverpool needing to qualify, and all 5 should do well, so 5 sets of bonus points. The EL has the arse and Everton, who should do better than W.Ham and Southampton, so the average shouldn't get dragged down as in the past. Not that it's really that relevant due to the rule changes as others have pointed out.
MillionMilesAway
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I think it's unlikely that Italy will overtake England. This season there are 5 in the CL with only Liverpool needing to qualify, and all 5 should do well, so 5 sets of bonus points. The EL has the arse and Everton, who should do better than W.Ham and Southampton, so the average shouldn't get dragged down as in the past. Not that it's really that relevant due to the rule changes as others have pointed out.
Yep. All good points.
I think it's unlikely that Italy will overtake England. This season there are 5 in the CL with only Liverpool needing to qualify, and all 5 should do well, so 5 sets of bonus points. The EL has the arse and Everton, who should do better than W.Ham and Southampton, so the average shouldn't get dragged down as in the past. Not that it's really that relevant due to the rule changes as others have pointed out.
Bear in mind though, the more teams in Europe there is also more chance of messing up considering countries coefficients are based on an average of how their teams performed.
It won't matter if Italy overtake us anyway because as of next season the top 4 countries all get 4 champions league spots.
bigf42
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Bear in mind though, the more teams in Europe there is also more chance of messing up considering countries coefficients are based on an average of how their teams performed.
It won't matter if Italy overtake us anyway because as of next season the top 4 countries all get 4 champions league spots.
True, but the quality this year is higher than in previous years when there's been 8 with fair play entrants not taking it seriously, or championship teams...
True, but the quality this year is higher than in previous years when there's been 8 with fair play entrants not taking it seriously, or championship teams...
I hope so, it's been a joke that West Ham have been knocked out by Astra Giurgiu in consecutive seasons.
Have they given United's Europa League spot via the Premier League to Southampton?
MillionMilesAway
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True, but the quality this year is higher than in previous years when there's been 8 with fair play entrants not taking it seriously, or championship teams...
Yes, no complete joker in the EL would be a great start.
MillionMilesAway
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I hope so, it's been a joke that West Ham have been knocked out by Astra Giurgiu in consecutive seasons.
Have they given United's Europa League spot via the Premier League to Southampton?
Only 2 EL this season, although Liverpool may join them if the playoff goes badly for them.
PragueBlue
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Wigan higher than half the premier league.
MillionMilesAway
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Wigan higher than half the premier league.
Only because it's only based on Euro competitions, and Wigan have played in one.