As with every complaint, we need to get to the man who can change attitudes at the club towards the fans. We need to get a small select group of supporters together to air our view. We need to approach ex players like Mike Summerbee, Paul Power, Paul Lake and the like and ask them to speak to Khaldoon, maybe even these fan on our behalf could meet with Khaldoon himself and air our grievances.
We already have a small group of fans. It's called Points of Blue and it used to meet club officials regularly until Soriano came along and stopped it. We'll be meeting on Monday (without the club) and will be sending the minutes of the meeting to them, to which they might or might not reply. The annoying thing is that all our top six rivals have formal, regular meetings with representative fan groups, even the rags. They all see the benefit of talking to their fans yet our club doesn't.As with every complaint, we need to get to the man who can change attitudes at the club towards the fans. We need to get a small select group of supporters together to air our view.
With the greatest respect to the OSC & Kevin Parker (who I've got a lot of time for) they're never going to confront the club. I 'm not an OSC member so don't really know what dialogue they have with the club but I believe there have been instances where they have got things done. But their whole rationale is not to get involved in club politics, hence why they wouldn't take sides in the Swales Out years. My view is that if you think your club isn't being run well or is working against fans rather than with them, you have to take a stand but they have their view and I accept that. So the OSC is highly unlikely to ever put itself at odds with the club over a point of principle.I thought that was what the OSC was there for?
Points of Blue meetings have started again. I had attended one but haven't been to them since due to work commitments but I'm certain Stephen Parish (who organises the meetings) has direct contact with the club and sends concerns raised in the meetings to the club.As with every complaint, we need to get to the man who can change attitudes at the club towards the fans. We need to get a small select group of supporters together to air our view. We need to approach ex players like Mike Summerbee, Paul Power, Paul Lake and the like and ask them to speak to Khaldoon, maybe even these fan on our behalf could meet with Khaldoon himself and air our grievances.
Points of Blue meetings have started again. I had attended one but haven't been to them since due to work commitments but I'm certain Stephen Parish (who organises the meetings) has direct contact with the club and sends concerns raised in the meetings to the club.
The next meeting is Monday 16th January, 6.30 to 8 pm at the Lass o Gowrie, Charles Street, upstairs room or in the snug.
One poster above states that it "isn't law for all fans to remain seated" just to be provided with an actual seat in the stadium so my question for City and Showsec (if they approach me) is:
Why imply that I have to sit in my seat for, when it isn't breaking any laws in me standing?
I've seen showsec and been asked myself when I've stood in Block 108 ES to sit down... And Showsec have said I "Have to sit" and implied that there will be consequences if I don't.
What I don't understand is how can they get away with this and actually eject someone (with Police support)
When no actual law is being broken.
If it is law that I must remain seated at all times inside a stadium then fair enough.
Whenever you purchase a ticket it binds you to certain club terms and conditions
Be that a general or season ticket. Those terms and conditions will be extensive so
By the purchase of that ticket you commit to satisfying or obeying those terms.......
Showsec will be instructed to enforce those terms and conditions, some of those
club conditions will be legal obligations and some just club ticket obligations. Police,
If they can be bothered, enforce any illegal activity and I presume "assist" showsec in
enforcing club regulations if they believe a breach of the peace or other illegal activity
Is likely when showsec attempt to enforce a club regulation within terms & conditions.
So if it's a term or condition of the ticket that you obey all stewards and you don't, then
that's the opportunity for the club to enforce it and or eject and or later ban you, either
temporarily Or permanently [for repeated actions].....!
I thought that was what the OSC was there for?
So when there's a riot inside or outside a stadium the police should either arrest everybody involved or arrest nobody?That's all good and well, but the Club and Showsec are discriminating against individuals. The are targeting and picking on certain fans for standing, while all around them other fans are standing and aren't being targeted.
They can't drag a person out, take their details, take the season ticket, and ban them for x amount of games because they were standing, yet ignore other fans for doing exactly the same thing. Wait a minute, they do.
I'm surprised this hasn't been challanged in a court of law yet. Their actions wouldn't stand up. It's discrimination against that one individual.
There are laws to protect people, be it in the workplace, in public, etc, against harrashment, victimisation, bullying, etc.
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/what-victimisation