HS2?
I agree with your last point, but your original point was plainly wrong, irrespective of where the HS2 project (inevitably) starts. Scaled back to where? Lichfield?True but where are they starting it? In London. Then heading north gradually over decades. Its the north that will lose out due to contruction delays and the inevitable cuts when the scheme is scaled back due to it going over budget. Why not start it in Manchester or Leeds. And head south? Capital expenditure is far too London centric in the UK and especially England of you take put Scotland Wales and NI.
I agree with your last point, but your original point was plainly wrong, irrespective of where the HS2 project (inevitably) starts. Scaled back to where? Lichfield?
I think it’s right to say that rail links from east to west (and vice versa) are palpably worse than those from north to south (and vice versa). My ex wife used to commute from Nottingham to Birmingham which took ridiculously long and the rolling stock was pretty wank.I think the line will get to Manchester but Leeds is doubtful imo. The Transpennine express (HS3) linking Leeds Bradford and the Manchester Liverpool conurbations of roughly 5 million people needs major investment. It's in a critically poor state. But that is so far down the road it's never going to happen. Crossrail 2 will be finished before that is even started.
wouldn't agree entirely, you can get from Cardiff to London on brand new trains in 2 hours (not very nice trains mind). Manchester to Bristol is 3 hours, Manchester to Cardiff is 3 hours on a good day, when both would come in around 2 hours if trains averaged just 80 mph, they average around 60 mph which is ludicrous. It's also an hour and a half to Birmingham, despite it being 80 miles away, partly due to how crap the entry routes into New Street are. So North-South away from London is just as bad in many places as East/West.I think it’s right to say that rail links from east to west (and vice versa) are palpably worse than those from north to south (and vice versa). My ex wife used to commute from Nottingham to Birmingham which took ridiculously long and the rolling stock was pretty wank.
Rail transport in this country is overpriced, substandard and should be renationalised imo (not a particularly radical view tbf)
True but where are they starting it? In London. Then heading north gradually over decades. Its the north that will lose out due to contruction delays and the inevitable cuts when the scheme is scaled back due to it going over budget. Why not start it in Manchester or Leeds. And head south? Capital expenditure is far too London centric in the UK and especially England of you take put Scotland Wales and NI.
wouldn't agree entirely, you can get from Cardiff to London on brand new trains in 2 hours (not very nice trains mind). Manchester to Bristol is 3 hours, Manchester to Cardiff is 3 hours on a good day, when both would come in around 2 hours if trains averaged just 80 mph, they average around 60 mph which is ludicrous. It's also an hour and a half to Birmingham, despite it being 80 miles away, partly due to how crap the entry routes into New Street are. So North-South away from London is just as bad in many places as East/West.
Check your history mate. City have had many gates in excess of 62k.The thread title is wrong......imo.
Never will City have a gate of 62,000.............the title sounds good but even now our record seems to be 54,600?.....and yet they(the club) claim 55,000 seats.
I remember when the gate was 47,500 ?.....and MUEN claimed City were adding 9,000 with the SS expansion...........it never happened.