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Dribble
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Amen to that brother...... :-)I think if we have a fantastic season, none of this will matter and all ill feeling goes out the window. There's nothing like City doing well to make your troubles fade away.
What's done is done, we have to treat this is a fresh start. It's just very hard to do that as fans as we all have memories and opinions about certain players and any faith in Pep is often offset by our lack of faith in certain players every improving!
It's not helped when that lot down the road believe they've improved their managerial situation (please let them be wrong) and they're signing some decent players. I can't see this season being easy for anybody, but at least I think we have a guy who gives us a damn good chance. That's all we can really ask for I think!
City_Sean
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You can't polish turds and we've allowed far too many of them to stay at the club for as long as they have. Peps the world's best coach, but he's not a miracle worker, he can't make Kolarov a great defender, he can't turn back time on Zaba, he can't make Yaya run his bollocks off etc.
BlueAnorak
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I'm not optimistic when it comes to City as the mods will testify so I'll just say I'm clearly more optimistic than you.They weren't open goals and Navas's was very missable but obviously it's Navas so we'll all say it was an absolute sitter. Arsed what we created anyway(which wasn't a great deal) defensively the new style and who's going to play there looks shambolic with a week to go and the central midfielders Yaya aside don't keep the ball well enough. Lots of work to do is what we learned and yes we will score goals still as usual.
One of he points I have been making for a while is that Pep has a long way to go to sort out the team that Pellers let deteriorate so badly over the last two years. It will not be plain sailing.
Chippy_boy
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For 20 minutes after we scored, we looked great - very Dortmundesque ironically. Other than that, meh interspersed with OMFG.
Blue Til Death
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Pre season is meaningless in terms of the outcome and performance levels in the season, I am fully confident that City will win the league this season, however I can see us having a slow start and progressing as the season develops, its all good as far as I am concerned, cant wait for Saturday to get things rolling..!
flb
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Tbh even if we don't have a 'sweeper keeper' we still need one who isn't an umpa lumpa.
Hart cannot keep hoofing the ball to the opposition or into touch, in a Pep Guardiola team.
He may have been given license to do it short term, until he gets used to the way Pep wants him to play or he may have just ignored Pep & done it anyway. But his first few touches were crap.
If it's he latter, & he has ignored Pep's instructions, he's probably a gonner, very soon. Let's hope that's not he case, but Hamman seemed to have seen something.
He doesn't seem to have a problem releasing it quick when he wants to hump it up front, cant understand Joe to be honest, even last season he had easy out balls virtually every game-either to a fullback,CB or on plenty of occasions to Yaya or Fernandinho., he seems to have a mental block releasing the ball in close proximity.
Its his shot stopping though that is of real concern-hes a shadow of the keep he was under Mancini-hes all over the fucking show.
Id be shitting it if I was him.
Dribble
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I've never agreed with the utterly disrespectful words some used to describe our previous manager, because irrespective of what anyone thought of him, he was still one of us and should have been awarded our respect and support. What I don't get is why you even needed to bring him up in the way you did which hopefully on reflection you will concede was perhaps ill advised and could be rightly construed as just plain petty revenge. We've had a seriously disorganised pre-season which seemed to be more about marketing opportunities than getting players up to speed and used to a new manager and his philosophy.If (when) we have a fantastic season my friend I'll be too busy celebrating it to be bothered about resurrecting this thread.
And I fully expect we WILL have a fantastic season. I've said it consistently for the last 6 years at least. And been proven right every time (even last year we won a trophy and got to the last four of the worlds most prestigious club competition - that to me was still a fantastic season because, you know, as the song goes, I really WAS here when we were shit).
The point still stands though. It's impossible to square the circle of "Pellers was a **** because with this squad he should have won (even) more than he did" whilst seemingly at the same time saying "Pep will need lots of time to improve results because he's been bequeathed a shit squad and only been able to spend £100m+ on it".
3 trophies in 3 years with a shit manager. What's your expectation for the next 3 years with the best manager in the world?
I have full and complete faith in Pep's ability, to me it's not in question. Seemingly you and I agree in this.
I just happened to respect the last guy too. He gifted me and all of us the chance to see us win 3 trophies in 3 years and progress in the champs league. I don't give a fuck that he wasn't 'cool' or 'chic'. He managed my team, our team, to 3 unforgettable moments. How can any blue not love him?
You can still admire pep and respect Pellers achievements. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I suspect (obviously cannot prove it though) that if anybody asked Pep his views on Pellers ability the words "corpse", "****", "senile", "Audrey Roberts" would not form part of his opinion. Far from it.
And thank you @FanchesterCity , you express my points far better than I do (in your earlier post).
You mention the money we've spent, but the likes of Zinchenko, Moreno, Jesus and Sane to a degree are more about our future than our here and now and I fully appreciate why the club has chosen to go down this route. If it means we have to take a step backward to move two forward then so be it, I think all fans will understand the reasons as long as they can see progression as opposed to the regression we've all witnessed over the last 3 years.
Everyone can be forgiven for being worried with what we've seen in pre-season so far. Albeit it we have a new manager, don't even have a full squad available and need to bed in new players, any concern shown by fans is justified seeing we kick off for real in 5 days and we seem to be at the level expected a week or two into pre-season.
Fans being fans, Pep will have a period of grace and when the new becomes the norm there will be complaints as well as praise. The past is the past and most fans have got the manager we most coveted, albeit it I was one who warned our transformation wouldn't be as easy as many thought, so to give the new incumbent time. l think we'd all be best served moving forward in unison and putting our collective efforts into supporting our team through what promises to be the hardest Premier League season since its creation........
bluebaja
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I said that to my Missus (not that she was listening). I can see us having an average start to the season, before it all begins to gel, and we go on to win the Prem being the strongest team by far at the end.Im predicting a very tough couple of months before were anything like a guardiola side.
Neville Kneville
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Kolarov shouldn't be off the pace, hasn't he had longer back at training than most?
Yes, but he's slow & shit.