City v Arsenal post match thread

Honestly, I don't think it's that - it's just normal football talk. People are bound to look at what we do and speculate on what Pep might be thinking. Then we combine that with rumours of incoming transfers like Stones, or dissatisfaction with Joe Hart etc and ponder stuff.

It's not about people thinking they're world class coaches, but many are paying fans, and a huge part of the sport is people having an opinion on our weaknesses and ways to improve. The game would be utterly dross if we all just turned to watch the match then went home as though we'd watched a movie.
THIS is football - fans talking / arguing about it.
Can't argue with that.
 
Tbh even if we don't have a 'sweeper keeper' we still need one who isn't an umpa lumpa.

Hart cannot keep hoofing the ball to the opposition or into touch, in a Pep Guardiola team.

He may have been given license to do it short term, until he gets used to the way Pep wants him to play or he may have just ignored Pep & done it anyway. But his first few touches were crap.

If it's he latter, & he has ignored Pep's instructions, he's probably a gonner, very soon. Let's hope that's not he case, but Hamman seemed to have seen something.
I honestly couldn't believe his first punt. Under no real pressure and options available he just reverted to type. Just seemed odd to me.
 
If you don't see any issues I don't think I can take anything else you ever say seriously.
yep. Even Stevie wonder can see harts kicking isn't very good. Pep wants his Gk if need be to become an extra outfield player for those few seconds he has the ball not smack it as hard as you can towards Agueo and hope for the best, or hit it out of touch because he's been slightly pressured. Hopefully he can improve but I'm not convinced.
 
Tbh even if we don't have a 'sweeper keeper' we still need one who isn't an umpa lumpa.

Hart cannot keep hoofing the ball to the opposition or into touch, in a Pep Guardiola team.

He may have been given license to do it short term, until he gets used to the way Pep wants him to play or he may have just ignored Pep & done it anyway. But his first few touches were crap.

If it's he latter, & he has ignored Pep's instructions, he's probably a gonner, very soon. Let's hope that's not he case, but Hamman seemed to have seen something.

I agree with this. But I think Joe's only 50% of that problem. Certainly the number of kicks to the wings that go into touch is disappointing / frustrating - it's an area he could improve on, but when he's kicking to midfield, there's a huge onus on our midfield to win the ball in the air! If we can't win it in the air (when the other team has a taller more determined midfield, then we might as well play it out from the back and have a much higher percentage of success of still being in possession by the time it reaches midfield.
 
I think a few people on here need to look at joe's positive's instead of looking at the negatives, he's a great goalkeeper and there's a few short memories aswell, remember the times he's pulled us out of the shit big time,I remember them very clearly.
 
I honestly couldn't believe his first punt. Under no real pressure and options available he just reverted to type. Just seemed odd to me.

It did to me mate.

As you say, it looked like a situation where even Hart could have passed it without too much trouble, but chose not to. It could be though that Pep has just told him to do as he lokes for now, whilst they work on it in training. But Hamman's comments concern me.
 
The other thing though is 'opportunity'. Even if Joe isn't our weakest link, not by a long shot, if a manager is faced with the opportunity to improve that position, he'll probably take it.
We might also need a CB, but if the opportunity to buy isn't there, despite the greater need, is he going to put a keeper change on hold?

You do make a really good point with that, and I do agree with you. Availability is the key word.
 
Tbh even if we don't have a 'sweeper keeper' we still need one who isn't an umpa lumpa.

Hart cannot keep hoofing the ball to the opposition or into touch, in a Pep Guardiola team.

He may have been given license to do it short term, until he gets used to the way Pep wants him to play or he may have just ignored Pep & done it anyway. But his first few touches were crap.

If it's he latter, & he has ignored Pep's instructions, he's probably a gonner, very soon. Let's hope that's not he case, but Hamman seemed to have seen something.

Hamann reckoned he saw some poor body language between Hart and Pep, but it's easy to read too much into things if a player is disappointed in a loss, or doesn't happen to be glancing at the manager when the manager is looking. It's chicken and the egg though, if you think the manager's looking to replace you, you're not likely to be brimming with confidence, or you're going to be trying too hard and not playing your natural game.
I think the British media have their sights set of Joe too. Every little mistake this season will be highlighted.
 
I think a few people on here need to look at joe's positive's instead of looking at the negatives, he's a great goalkeeper and there's a few short memories aswell, remember the times he's pulled us out of the shit big time,I remember them very clearly.

People keep saying this as if there are loads of people who want Hart gone. Pep has keepers who pass, it's that simple. If he can't do it, he'll bin him, as his whole plan won't work unless the keeper can pass the ball to a decent standard.

It doesn't matter if we are the Joe Hart fan club. If he can't get it, Pep will sell him sooner or later, or he'll be sacked, because the team won't function.
 

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