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bluemoon27 said:
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City v Arsenal Post Match
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FanchesterCity
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I can't honestly say we were much better than them. We flattered to deceive.
We had more shots on target (not seen any official stats, so might be proven wrong), but I think they looked dangerous on the break and could have done better with some of those chances, and punished us more.
We weren't terrible either though. But they just looked up for it more than we did in my opinion. I genuinely felt they were first to most 50/50 balls, and their passing was quicker and more precise in general.
The first 20 minutes of the second half when the game seemed to open out, I thought we looked at our best (as did they), it looked more stretched and I thought we'd stand our best chance of scoring. Sadly it never happened.
I thought Jovetic made a real difference, but Navas just isn't cutting the mustard for me. Decent enough player, but 'decent' isn't good enough for a title winning team. He's got to get into the box, rather than stopping slowing up and stopping on the outer edge of it.
If he runs at speed into the box, anything can happen, and if he really HAS to slow up waiting for backup, then at least do it inside the box on the off chance someone clatters him.
Losing these days feels a lot worse than it used to. Price of success I guess.
We had more shots on target (not seen any official stats, so might be proven wrong), but I think they looked dangerous on the break and could have done better with some of those chances, and punished us more.
We weren't terrible either though. But they just looked up for it more than we did in my opinion. I genuinely felt they were first to most 50/50 balls, and their passing was quicker and more precise in general.
The first 20 minutes of the second half when the game seemed to open out, I thought we looked at our best (as did they), it looked more stretched and I thought we'd stand our best chance of scoring. Sadly it never happened.
I thought Jovetic made a real difference, but Navas just isn't cutting the mustard for me. Decent enough player, but 'decent' isn't good enough for a title winning team. He's got to get into the box, rather than stopping slowing up and stopping on the outer edge of it.
If he runs at speed into the box, anything can happen, and if he really HAS to slow up waiting for backup, then at least do it inside the box on the off chance someone clatters him.
Losing these days feels a lot worse than it used to. Price of success I guess.
IcriedwhenTueartleft
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That was poor today. We started off okay and I thought we were looking good, Got one of their CB's booked in the first minute then gave him the rest of 89 minutes off....why the France did no-one try and run at him after and try and get another foul?
It's been coming that and our fail safe, our home form, is not going to get us out of jail this season. People slagging off Navas on here left right and centre and yes, he was pretty ineffectual today but the lad never stops trying and doesn't hide.
On the other hand, I wish Fernando would hide or at least MP would hide him on the bench because he looks out of his depth to me. VK needs to stop all those bravado body checks and pushes, that was a penalty waiting to happen against him today. Only a slight nudge admittedly, but in the box and about 5 yards from right in fron of Dean? Foolish and gifted them something to hang on to.
Things is, I don't think Arsenal were brilliant today, they didn't come here and play us off the pitch with wave after wave of attacks, they won because we were well off our game and it's been coming.....pretty shoddy displays against Burnley, Sunderland, Wednesday and Everton....oh, in fact 4 pretty guff performances in a row and another one today.
We've lost a lot of games at home in the last 11 months, Chelsea, Barcelona, Wigan, Stoke, Arsenal, CSKA.. Teams are figuring us out at the Etihad and we can't seem to counter it. I've avoided the Sky post match wankfest with that irritating and pretentious French bloke, the one with the nice accent and sharp suit...two attributes that apparantly can take you a long way in the vacuous world of football TV analysis and to a certain extent, can compensate for being a bit of a prat.
On the bright side, Kun lasted 90 minutes, people will hopefully stop laying in to Nasri because he doesn't charge up and down the touchline like Milner for 93 minutes, disguising limited footballing skills with hard endeavour.....Nasri is one of our most important players, he works with Silva as an outlet for swopping passes around the opposition box, allowing others to make the runs....we had nobody doing that today and Silva was left stranded and caught in possession too often. We had no control around their box and too often, the ball was too easily cleared.
It's been coming that and our fail safe, our home form, is not going to get us out of jail this season. People slagging off Navas on here left right and centre and yes, he was pretty ineffectual today but the lad never stops trying and doesn't hide.
On the other hand, I wish Fernando would hide or at least MP would hide him on the bench because he looks out of his depth to me. VK needs to stop all those bravado body checks and pushes, that was a penalty waiting to happen against him today. Only a slight nudge admittedly, but in the box and about 5 yards from right in fron of Dean? Foolish and gifted them something to hang on to.
Things is, I don't think Arsenal were brilliant today, they didn't come here and play us off the pitch with wave after wave of attacks, they won because we were well off our game and it's been coming.....pretty shoddy displays against Burnley, Sunderland, Wednesday and Everton....oh, in fact 4 pretty guff performances in a row and another one today.
We've lost a lot of games at home in the last 11 months, Chelsea, Barcelona, Wigan, Stoke, Arsenal, CSKA.. Teams are figuring us out at the Etihad and we can't seem to counter it. I've avoided the Sky post match wankfest with that irritating and pretentious French bloke, the one with the nice accent and sharp suit...two attributes that apparantly can take you a long way in the vacuous world of football TV analysis and to a certain extent, can compensate for being a bit of a prat.
On the bright side, Kun lasted 90 minutes, people will hopefully stop laying in to Nasri because he doesn't charge up and down the touchline like Milner for 93 minutes, disguising limited footballing skills with hard endeavour.....Nasri is one of our most important players, he works with Silva as an outlet for swopping passes around the opposition box, allowing others to make the runs....we had nobody doing that today and Silva was left stranded and caught in possession too often. We had no control around their box and too often, the ball was too easily cleared.
Chippy_boy
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coleridge said:Gabriel said:Chippy_boy said:Really surprised by some of the comments today. I thought we were much better than them today, but we lost. Shit happens, Play that 10 times and we'd win 7 or 8 of them.
They defended well, but created little. By and large, we controlled the game.
Agreed.
How many shots on target? I can only remember an effort from Navas straight at the keeper.
How many corners? 16? Again, the keeper did not have to make a save.
Whereas Arsenal looked dangerous on the break on many occasions.
This possession bollocks is starting to sound like the Mancini argument in 2012/13.
How many did they have? 1.
CelesteItis
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Have not read the thread yet. But I have some different views on today's game:
1) The fucking agenda in full display. A non penalty awarded by a corrupt bent ref to the Platini lickspittles, all the decisions went for the tarquins. All they needed was a cheating diving british scum like Ramsey to win the non penalty with his theatrics. Bloody Thespian Tarquins. Fook 'em. And fook the Espn-la narrators, waxing lyrically with the booing c unts singing Cazorla praises, the biased roaches even turned up the volume to heard the despicable lot.
2) It's my fault. I jinxed the lads. I expected Qpr to beat the scum, and also expected that all the 4th place trophy chasers were going to do well, forgot about the classless lot who cannot buy class but they can buy a 4th place. But the lads will bounce back, I reckon.
3) This is unacceptable Mr. Charming Man. It is just fucking Arsenal for fuck sakes!!!. The most classless club of the british islands and Europe, just after the scum and the candlewanks; followed with that lot of booing, moaning wankers. This is just the voyeur Wenger side, the inventor of bottling. How come you engineered today's shower? You know there is a fucking agenda against the club. You should've prepare the team for the ref fuck ups. This wouldn't happened with Mancio. The defence has regressed. Zab, Kompany, Clichy are making a mistake too many and Micho cannot cover for all of them. Why send Nasty abroad. Fernando is not better than Javi García. And those fucking corners, each one ended in danger to Hart, who tbf has forgot how to set his wall and command his area. Rant over.
4) I don't know, very weird game. I can give the lads upfront the excuse of coming from injuries and rustiness. But we wasn't prepared for a cheating ref and a diving cu nt, and should have. The non penalty changed the course of the game. Maybe keep Kompany in the bench instead of uselessly receiving his 5th yellow and use him when properly fit.
And still there is an urgent work to do to sort our defensive frailties, am starting to lose patience with Navas, he wastes a lot, not to mention the Zabman runs.
Just 5 points behind Che£$ea and the skint one with a lot of games to play.
Keep calm blues and don't leave early. Now onto the thread beginning.
1) The fucking agenda in full display. A non penalty awarded by a corrupt bent ref to the Platini lickspittles, all the decisions went for the tarquins. All they needed was a cheating diving british scum like Ramsey to win the non penalty with his theatrics. Bloody Thespian Tarquins. Fook 'em. And fook the Espn-la narrators, waxing lyrically with the booing c unts singing Cazorla praises, the biased roaches even turned up the volume to heard the despicable lot.
2) It's my fault. I jinxed the lads. I expected Qpr to beat the scum, and also expected that all the 4th place trophy chasers were going to do well, forgot about the classless lot who cannot buy class but they can buy a 4th place. But the lads will bounce back, I reckon.
3) This is unacceptable Mr. Charming Man. It is just fucking Arsenal for fuck sakes!!!. The most classless club of the british islands and Europe, just after the scum and the candlewanks; followed with that lot of booing, moaning wankers. This is just the voyeur Wenger side, the inventor of bottling. How come you engineered today's shower? You know there is a fucking agenda against the club. You should've prepare the team for the ref fuck ups. This wouldn't happened with Mancio. The defence has regressed. Zab, Kompany, Clichy are making a mistake too many and Micho cannot cover for all of them. Why send Nasty abroad. Fernando is not better than Javi García. And those fucking corners, each one ended in danger to Hart, who tbf has forgot how to set his wall and command his area. Rant over.
4) I don't know, very weird game. I can give the lads upfront the excuse of coming from injuries and rustiness. But we wasn't prepared for a cheating ref and a diving cu nt, and should have. The non penalty changed the course of the game. Maybe keep Kompany in the bench instead of uselessly receiving his 5th yellow and use him when properly fit.
And still there is an urgent work to do to sort our defensive frailties, am starting to lose patience with Navas, he wastes a lot, not to mention the Zabman runs.
Just 5 points behind Che£$ea and the skint one with a lot of games to play.
Keep calm blues and don't leave early. Now onto the thread beginning.
deano ou812
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It is looking like that,still to many hard away games to get through and it's just going to be one hell of a run of results,it's a bridge to far imo..BLUEMATT23 said:Think the key is ensure we stay in the top4. With some tough aways to come we have not got an easy run in until May.
Consolidate 2nd place and concentrate on the FA cup and CL. The league's gone.
jimharri
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That's putting it mildly. We were comfortably second best today. They had 35% possession, yet they never looked like they were going to concede. All in all, a bad day at the office.FanchesterCity said:I can't honestly say we were much better than them. We flattered to deceive.
We had more shots on target (not seen any official stats, so might be proven wrong), but I think they looked dangerous on the break and could have done better with some of those chances, and punished us more.
We weren't terrible either though. But they just looked up for it more than we did in my opinion. I genuinely felt they were first to most 50/50 balls, and their passing was quicker and more precise in general.
The first 20 minutes of the second half when the game seemed to open out, I thought we looked at our best (as did they), it looked more stretched and I thought we'd stand our best chance of scoring. Sadly it never happened.
I thought Jovetic made a real difference, but Navas just isn't cutting the mustard for me. Decent enough player, but 'decent' isn't good enough for a title winning team. He's got to get into the box, rather than stopping slowing up and stopping on the outer edge of it.
If he runs at speed into the box, anything can happen, and if he really HAS to slow up waiting for backup, then at least do it inside the box on the off chance someone clatters him.
Losing these days feels a lot worse than it used to. Price of success I guess.
Bill
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we win at chelsea and this defeat is meaningless. we go again.
Bluemanc100
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raymondkl92 said:I honestly don't see why we don't play Kolarov as a winger seeing as Clichy has nailed the left back spot.
I'd choose Clichy every time over Kolarov.. The last few games he has become a busted flush for me
Stoned Rose
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Firstly I thought arsenal were excellent. It was a bizarrely un-arsenal like performance with a really impressive defensive solidity and excellent counter attacking.
It was actually the kind of performance(s) I think we could do with putting in v barca and the exact 'way' we should play in those games.
Have to say Sanchez is world class. He's up there with hazard at being direct and skilful as fuck. A brilliant player.
From our point if view the machine is clearly not as powerful, slick or efficient without yaya and nasri.
With only silva there to create and 'worry' arsenal it was 'to easy' for them. They gripped him and we had nowt else to damage them with.
Kompany, aguero and jovetic not being properly fit didn't help either.
I think in games like that, there needs to be 'otherness' about us. Be it scoring from a free kick, a corner (as if!), a shot from distance, 'launching it' etc. We seem unable to 'change' when necessary which is a concern. I'm sure however that Bony will help to address this to a degree.
In short well done arsenal and let's hope we learn from this.
It was actually the kind of performance(s) I think we could do with putting in v barca and the exact 'way' we should play in those games.
Have to say Sanchez is world class. He's up there with hazard at being direct and skilful as fuck. A brilliant player.
From our point if view the machine is clearly not as powerful, slick or efficient without yaya and nasri.
With only silva there to create and 'worry' arsenal it was 'to easy' for them. They gripped him and we had nowt else to damage them with.
Kompany, aguero and jovetic not being properly fit didn't help either.
I think in games like that, there needs to be 'otherness' about us. Be it scoring from a free kick, a corner (as if!), a shot from distance, 'launching it' etc. We seem unable to 'change' when necessary which is a concern. I'm sure however that Bony will help to address this to a degree.
In short well done arsenal and let's hope we learn from this.