City Voice - Recognising and rewarding long-term members

I’m probably going to contradict myself here, but after reading the first seven pages I was struck by a few idle thoughts.

When we first moved to the ETIHAD you could sense the feelgood factor. Every home game was a sellout, but the team flattered to deceive. The crowds then slowly dipped from an average of 46,000 in our first season to around 38,000 during the latter stages of the Pearce era. However they slowly increased after the takeover and next season we will probably boast the highest average attendance in our entire history.

Similarly City averaged 41,000 in 1978, but less than half that figure in 1988. Despite the trauma of successive relegations in 1998 our crowds had increased by almost ten thousand.

A few weeks ago I attended the Merseyside derby with a few Everton mates. When I mentioned loyalty points they all laughed, one of them replying, “Christ, we’ve only just started using computers”

How many of United’s Season ticket holders in 2003-04 are still there?

Incidentally, I’m one of the 12,000. Do I get some discount?
 
It could be worse.

Something like this at City could really screw up the clubs calculations and possible rewards.

Ticket tout caught with 37 Manchester United season tickets banned from football matches for five years
 
jrb said:
It could be worse.

Something like this at City could really screw up the clubs calculations and possible rewards.

Ticket tout caught with 37 Manchester United season tickets banned from football matches for five years

Bobby Charlton topping his pension up again then! We will always be classier than them.

I would like to see a price freeze on season tickets including a postponement of the planned Level 2 price hikes. Failing that inflation linked price rises.
 
jrb said:
Perhaps if we stopped wasting £8mill and a 4 year contract on players like Scott Sinclair amongst others, then we might have more money to meet FFP. I'm sure if anyone was to add up all the money City have wasted on players and wages since Sheikh Mansour bought the club, we would be blown away by the figure. We'd have probably pissed FFP by now, not to mention a possible season ticket price freeze or reduction.

How much did it cost us to pay off Mancini and his coaching staff? Wasn't it roughly £20miill? And didn't we give Mancini a new 5 year contract just before doing that? Anyone at another company pulling that kind of trick would be straight out the door. But at the time it didn't matter, as money wasn't a problem, and neither was FFP until it got it's claws into our club.
All clubs do it jrb, we're certainly no exception, look at the waste last summer over in trafford, a couple of seasons ago in anfield, ridiculous sums of money wasted, and no significant improvements.

I think we've done OK, there's only a couple that we haven't got something good out of (Rodwell and Sinclair), going back, the players we bought were to up the profile, as well as improve us team wise, it was money we had to throw at the project, and yes it was expensive in fees and wages, but money that had to be spent to get us up to the top.
 
Kompany is King said:
Price reduction stadium wide.

If City can't do it who can?

Take the lead..

Forgot to mention I was there in 2003 & many years before.

The club needs to look at how it talks to the majority of its fans/customers and maybe in Khaldoon's annual web address acknowledge some fans concerns, chiefly price.

Soriano maybe great as CEO. He need to talk about Manchester City & our future.

I recognise that we may not all like different aspects of the club's progress but the club must recognise two way communication is key.

Lead the way Khaldoon.
 
cleavers said:
jrb said:
Perhaps if we stopped wasting £8mill and a 4 year contract on players like Scott Sinclair amongst others, then we might have more money to meet FFP. I'm sure if anyone was to add up all the money City have wasted on players and wages since Sheikh Mansour bought the club, we would be blown away by the figure. We'd have probably pissed FFP by now, not to mention a possible season ticket price freeze or reduction.

How much did it cost us to pay off Mancini and his coaching staff? Wasn't it roughly £20miill? And didn't we give Mancini a new 5 year contract just before doing that? Anyone at another company pulling that kind of trick would be straight out the door. But at the time it didn't matter, as money wasn't a problem, and neither was FFP until it got it's claws into our club.
All clubs do it jrb, we're certainly no exception, look at the waste last summer over in trafford, a couple of seasons ago in anfield, ridiculous sums of money wasted, and no significant improvements.

I think we've done OK, there's only a couple that we haven't got something good out of (Rodwell and Sinclair), going back, the players we bought were to up the profile, as well as improve us team wise, it was money we had to throw at the project, and yes it was expensive in fees and wages, but money that had to be spent to get us up to the top.

I appreciate that Cleavers, but let's just look at Scott Sinclair again. He cost £8mill. Let's forget about his wages.

38,000 season ticket holders given a £50 price freeze would set the club back £1,900,000. So in it's basic from Scott Sinclair's transfer fee equates to a 4 year season ticket price freeze, and roughly 2.5 pints for each season ticket holder. :-) That's absolutely potty. There's no reason why the club cannot afford a season ticket price freeze, what with the new PL TV deal, CL money, the new BT CL deal, new and improved sponsorship deals, an expanded Etihad, and with a whole host of other and new revenue streams coming into the club. At the end of the day it's £2mill, give or take. The question is can the club afford that, and is there an appetite for that at the highest level? Only time and the new season ticket prices will tell.
 
jrb said:
cleavers said:
jrb said:
Perhaps if we stopped wasting £8mill and a 4 year contract on players like Scott Sinclair amongst others, then we might have more money to meet FFP. I'm sure if anyone was to add up all the money City have wasted on players and wages since Sheikh Mansour bought the club, we would be blown away by the figure. We'd have probably pissed FFP by now, not to mention a possible season ticket price freeze or reduction.

How much did it cost us to pay off Mancini and his coaching staff? Wasn't it roughly £20miill? And didn't we give Mancini a new 5 year contract just before doing that? Anyone at another company pulling that kind of trick would be straight out the door. But at the time it didn't matter, as money wasn't a problem, and neither was FFP until it got it's claws into our club.
All clubs do it jrb, we're certainly no exception, look at the waste last summer over in trafford, a couple of seasons ago in anfield, ridiculous sums of money wasted, and no significant improvements.

I think we've done OK, there's only a couple that we haven't got something good out of (Rodwell and Sinclair), going back, the players we bought were to up the profile, as well as improve us team wise, it was money we had to throw at the project, and yes it was expensive in fees and wages, but money that had to be spent to get us up to the top.

I appreciate that Cleavers, but let's just look at Scott Sinclair again. He cost £8mill. Let's forget about his wages.

38,000 season ticket holders given a £50 price freeze would set the club back £1,900,000. So in it's basic from Scott Sinclair's transfer fee equates to a 4 year season ticket price freeze, and roughly 2.5 pints for each season ticket holder. :-) That's absolutely potty. There's no reason why the club cannot afford a season ticket price freeze, what with the new PL TV deal, CL money, the new BT CL deal, new and improved sponsorship deals, an expanded Etihad, and with a whole host of other and new revenue streams coming into the club. At the end of the day it's £2mill, give or take. The question is can the club afford that, and is there an appetite for that at the highest level? Only time and the new season ticket prices will tell.

I get what you are saying about the future and I have said that I think season ticket prices will stabilise but the continual references to Scott Sinclair are just not right. At that time the club would have set a budget for spending on new players. You may only be using Sinclair as an example but what you are saying is that the budget should have been lower and Sinclair should not have been signed. However, the complaint at the time of those who didn't want Sinclair and it is still their complaint today was that we didn't sign De Rossi, Van Persie, Hazard or various other top players we were supposedly looking at. In other words very few fans were looking at our management to save money and instead wanted them to spend a lot more money which would have created even more problems with FFP and made further increases in season ticket prices more likely.
 

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