City Vs Everton Pre Match Discussion Thread

[mancity1]

Now that it is clear Utd are a poor side without RVP, the match against Everton is going to be a true test against Premiership opposition. If we lose many staff at City are going to be feeling a great deal of heat. That said the huge pay offs they will get even for failure will keep them comfortable. Quite what Soriano & Begiristain see in Pellegrini is not yet clear. It had better become so very soon or we'll not be worrying about advancing to the second stage of the Champions League because we'll not be in the first stage.

I would have thought a number of managers both in Europe and in fact in the premiership ( namely Wenger ) would have been sounded before MP.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger in his memoirs or best seller mentions he was approached to manage City after RM was sacked but has unfinished business at Arsenal etc so declined.

Not disputing his credentials and longevity in management as he obviously has a decent skill set but in the premiership to manage a club with such high expectations ( after all we just sacked a man who had broken our title drought etc and oversaw our third chumps league qualification ) and your first job in the premiership at the age of 60 suggests that MP was a safe option to progress past the group stage and clearly with the squad assembled and their form under a manager with man management skills that was polarising people players and stakeholders with apparantly no interest in anything outside the first team results.

The side as it is was good enough on its own irrespective of who was in charge would take care of itself in the premiership a title again after surrendering it to the other half maybe maybe not but top four no dramas and what was needed was to tinker the squad bring the love back and with his experience a better fist of Chumps League would ensue playing the football that fans would love to watch world wide and ensure better outcomes in the land of Heinekin.

What may well have been underestimated was the real reason behind the mindset of the players we have and how the new players would perform in the premiership after the events of 2011/12 especially in the premiership and the character of those players.

I can easily see it going belly up for MP not because of his lack of nous to do well in Chumps and punching at or above the weight in charge of sides he has managed in the past but the fact that this group of players need a different type of manager to get the best out of them and even then it is short lived before things deteriorate.

No doubt Mancini cared and to some extent gave up in the end.

No matter how good ore well credentialed you are it well never be easy managing Man City.

Mate can you do us all a favour and take your opinions to the Pellegrini thread. Mainly because this is the Everton discussion thread, along with the fact that your starting to do my head in.

LOL.

 

[Eaglechief]

The positive for the Everton game is that we do get three or four players charging into the box whenever we attack, so I'm confident we will score.

The main concern is whether we will keep a clean sheet at the other end, due to making lots of individual errors at the back recently.

I hope we can win and keep a clean sheet but my head tells me a draw is more likely.

 

[blueste41]

Now that it is clear Utd are a poor side without RVP, the match against Everton is going to be a true test against Premiership opposition. If we lose many staff at City are going to be feeling a great deal of heat. That said the huge pay offs they will get even for failure will keep them comfortable. Quite what Soriano & Begiristain see in Pellegrini is not yet clear. It had better become so very soon or we'll not be worrying about advancing to the second stage of the Champions League because we'll not be in the first stage.

I would have thought a number of managers both in Europe and in fact in the premiership ( namely Wenger ) would have been sounded before MP.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger in his memoirs or best seller mentions he was approached to manage City after RM was sacked but has unfinished business at Arsenal etc so declined.

Not disputing his credentials and longevity in management as he obviously has a decent skill set but in the premiership to manage a club with such high expectations ( after all we just sacked a man who had broken our title drought etc and oversaw our third chumps league qualification ) and your first job in the premiership at the age of 60 suggests that MP was a safe option to progress past the group stage and clearly with the squad assembled and their form under a manager with man management skills that was polarising people players and stakeholders with apparantly no interest in anything outside the first team results.

The side as it is was good enough on its own irrespective of who was in charge would take care of itself in the premiership a title again after surrendering it to the other half maybe maybe not but top four no dramas and what was needed was to tinker the squad bring the love back and with his experience a better fist of Chumps League would ensue playing the football that fans would love to watch world wide and ensure better outcomes in the land of Heinekin.

What may well have been underestimated was the real reason behind the mindset of the players we have and how the new players would perform in the premiership after the events of 2011/12 especially in the premiership and the character of those players.

I can easily see it going belly up for MP not because of his lack of nous to do well in Chumps and punching at or above the weight in charge of sides he has managed in the past but the fact that this group of players need a different type of manager to get the best out of them and even then it is short lived before things deteriorate.

No doubt Mancini cared and to some extent gave up in the end.

No matter how good ore well credentialed you are it well never be easy managing Man City.

Mate can you do us all a favour and take your opinions to the Pellegrini thread. Mainly because this is the Everton discussion thread, along with the fact that your starting to do my head in.

Lol. Are you sure it's not mainly cos he's doing your head in!

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

I'd agree with the consensus here that a statement is needed, firstly from the manager in terms of the team he puts out and secondly from the players themselves. There's no point having one without the other.

 

[The Man With The Stick]

Guessin half the team will be fecked after chasin shadows last night so i guess replacements will be needed...

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Maybe Ferna will be ok, seems to have an engine on him

 

[pavelsrnicek]

The result is by far the most important thing on Saturday. A win of some sort to simply put an end to a bad week. Yes a 4 goal thrashing and super performance would be wonderful but we must win first and foremost if only to keep in touch at the top.

I have a few concerns firstly about the teams confidence and mentality after a tough week marked by a number of individual errors leading to goals. Secondly we are playing a bogey team managed by a man who got the measure of us with Wigan when it mattered. Finally we are playing a team in form who will play as Pellegrini wants us to play, a prssing game with a big physical player up front and a deeper forward/midfielder behind; with width through one winger and 2 attacking full backs. It appears that at the moment they are better suited to playing in this way then we are.

 

[GazM]

I'm almost past caring. MP needs to address the issues around formation. He can't legislate for individual error but the rest is down to him. I don;t want another weekend spoilt - Martinez is getting on my tits also.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm almost past caring. MP needs to address the issues around formation. He can't legislate for individual error but the rest is down to him. I don;t want another weekend spoilt - Martinez is getting on my tits also.

Yeah , Martinez does appear to be in the limelight a bit more, but there again it's probably to be expected as he's now at a bigger club now ...... he's doing alright with Everton , he's lost argueably his best player , yet his team are in 4th position , and undefeated .... in my opinion two of the brightest managers in the game are now on Merseyside.

 

[citymad]

I'm almost past caring. MP needs to address the issues around formation. He can't legislate for individual error but the rest is down to him. I don;t want another weekend spoilt - Martinez is getting on my tits also.

Yeah , Martinez does appear to be in the limelight a bit more, but there again it's probably to be expected as he's now at a bigger club now ...... he's doing alright with Everton , he's lost argueably his best player , yet his team are in 4th position , and undefeated .... in my opinion two of the brightest managers in the game are now on Merseyside.

Totally agree unlike the two in Manchester. Actually that's a bit harsh on Moyes.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I'm almost past caring. MP needs to address the issues around formation. He can't legislate for individual error but the rest is down to him. I don;t want another weekend spoilt - Martinez is getting on my tits also.

Yeah , Martinez does appear to be in the limelight a bit more, but there again it's probably to be expected as he's now at a bigger club now ...... he's doing alright with Everton , he's lost argueably his best player , yet his team are in 4th position , and undefeated .... in my opinion two of the brightest managers in the game are now on Merseyside.

Yup, and he well and truly had our number twice at the end of last season with crappy old Wigan. He will almost certainly go 4-5-1 against us with a high press, and if Pellegrini opts for 4-4-2 again then I honestly can't see us getting more than a draw.