City's 1960s team

League finishing positions weren’t great outside the title winning season:
Promoted in 1966
15th in 1967
1st in 1968
13th in 1969
10th in 1970
11th in 1971
 
All the correct factors have been mentioned, but one other stands out: discipline or lack of it. For example, the head coach should really not be in the team bath with Miss World and a bottle.l
I was in a hotel bar in Rome and picked up the visitors book. There were the signatures of City's team of the late 70s. Paulo the barman told me how the team arrived the worse for wear. Someone dragged a comatose Summerbee across the marble floot or reception, left him in a heap by the desk saying:
"This is our captain, he will book us in.
All the players decamped to the bar and, to Paulo's amazement, proceeded to get completely pissed. They played the next day. Cant remember the game.
 
This.

City were badly run postwar with a lack of ambition.

Late 60's early 70's divisions and boardroom struggles took their toll culminating in the appointment of carpetbagger Swales as chairman. This started the rot that continued until he was forced out. Exemplified by first side-lining Joe Mercer and then a dispute with Francis Lee that took him to Derby and another champions medal under Clough.

Swales continued in this vein all his time at City. Mid 70's Tony Book resuscitated the dying patient but Swales showed little support and quickly reverted to type as the small time huckster surrounded by cronies. Swales interest was in using City as a paycheck, massaging his ego and as stepping stone to social climbing within the FA

Joe Mercer had brought wisdom and integrity. Malcolm Allison a vision and recipe for success. Neither were valued with players treated as pawns, all secondary to the interests and whims of those who ran City. It was a prewar mentality in a postwar age. Players and staff were expected to know their place. This took precedence over results on the field.

swales did his dirty work behind the scenes on the board and unrest was filtering down to the team and manager and coach. from about 1970 city went on free fall and fast for a top team. the squad of players and club was really the best in england and should have won more titles and cups after 1970

like you said franny lee went to derby and won the title with a lesser team in derby. ok clough was manager but it was early in his career as manager. but he added 2 or 3 players and derby took off

why did city not go on to much greater things is a puzzle ? maybe football was different back then and we had 4 or 5 teams that was up and coming like liverpool and notts forest and city should have been on par with both of them

swales really did not know much football and run a campaign in the back ground once he got a good foot hold on the board. pressure was used and money and power got the better of manchester city board and swales was unleashed as chairman
 
It was a great decade in our history, regardless of all the backroom stuff, i think most of us look back in with great memories, so lets remember the great plays that played for us over that period, and there were many, and remember the good times we all had, we were lucky to have seen that period in our history, and only the last 10 years have surpassed that time.
 
On a lighter note could you ever imagine this happening with our chairman Khaldoon. When we beat Everton in a nail biting semi at Villa Park in 69 our dear old chairman Albert Alexander walked into the dressing room as the players and management were joyfully celebrating and said " Well done lads now we are at Wembley we will make some money and we can buy some decent players". Classic.
I was at that game . Good old Tommy Booth nicking the ball of Colins toe.
 
swales did his dirty work behind the scenes on the board and unrest was filtering down to the team and manager and coach. from about 1970 city went on free fall and fast for a top team. the squad of players and club was really the best in england and should have won more titles and cups after 1970

like you said franny lee went to derby and won the title with a lesser team in derby. ok clough was manager but it was early in his career as manager. but he added 2 or 3 players and derby took off
Clough had left Derby before Lee arrived. Dave Mackay had replaced Clough by then.
 
Clough had left Derby before Lee arrived. Dave Mackay had replaced Clough by then.

but lee turned derby in league champions and that was the question in lee summerbee and bell was still good enough to win titles after 1970. city had turned sour and when swales rocked up in 1973 as chairman we was a shambles and at best a cup team
 
but lee turned derby in league champions and that was the question in lee summerbee and bell was still good enough to win titles after 1970. city had turned sour and when swales rocked up in 1973 as chairman we was a shambles and at best a cup team

This 100%

We lost the impetus Joe and (pre-backstabbing) Malcolm had given us when (post-backstabbing) Malcolm signed the consistently disruptive Rodney Marsh.
Allison and Swales ruined City for decades - I honestly can't believe that Allison is still held in such high regard by many City fans after what he did to Joe.
 
Also, clubs were ran by a Chairman/owner but not so much as a big business like now. They didnt spend big to keep the clubs at the top. A team who had done well kept the same players to try and do it again, and more players came through from the reserves than by being bought.
That's a good point. Who did we sign after winning the 1st Division title ? Bobby Owen from Bury for £100,000 (a lot of money in those days) ! He scored in the Charity Shield win over WBA 6-1 but don't remember him doing much after that.
 
swales did his dirty work behind the scenes on the board and unrest was filtering down to the team and manager and coach. from about 1970 city went on free fall and fast for a top team. the squad of players and club was really the best in england and should have won more titles and cups after 1970

like you said franny lee went to derby and won the title with a lesser team in derby. ok clough was manager but it was early in his career as manager. but he added 2 or 3 players and derby took off

why did city not go on to much greater things is a puzzle ? maybe football was different back then and we had 4 or 5 teams that was up and coming like liverpool and notts forest and city should have been on par with both of them

swales really did not know much football and run a campaign in the back ground once he got a good foot hold on the board. pressure was used and money and power got the better of manchester city board and swales was unleashed as chairman
Cloughie had resigned from Derby before Franny signed for them. It was Dave Mackay who guided them to the league title in 74-75
 

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