Claudio Bravo

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YaYa's Left Peg said:
In which case Pep might be able to train it into him. If I was Hart, I would relish the thought of training under Pep for a year or two and acquiring the knowledge and confidence to add new capabilities that are so clearly needed in the modern game. He is still a relatively young man for a goalkeeper, so he wouldn't be losing much and potentially gaining loads.
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If Hart knew Guardiola was nailed on to come 12 months ago (which is more than likely) you'd have thought he'd have been working tirelessly to improve an area of his game that the world and his dog knows isn't the best and which Pep thinks is fundamental to his plan working.
I haven't seen much to show me that's the case. I think it's more the overall package that Pep feels he can't work with, which if true is understandable and makes sense to sell as opposed to having an unhappy player who up until now was a big voice in the changing room.
That's just the impression I get, could be wildly off the mark of course.
 
Thing with Joe is that something crazy like 44% of goals he's conceded have been low to his left, like was said earlier on here. And it's been like that for six years. And he hasn't improved.

If he lets in that many goals in one position and he hasn't been working to improve it, then you have to wonder what he's been doing in training for the last six years.
 
MarsLlama said:
Thing with Joe is that something crazy like 44% of goals he's conceded have been low to his left, like was said earlier on here. And it's been like that for six years. And he hasn't improved.

If he lets in that many goals in one position and he hasn't been working to improve it, then you have to wonder what he's been doing in training for the last six years.
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Shouting really loudly so everything things hes a 'lad'
 
YaYa's Left Peg said:
In which case Pep might be able to train it into him. If I was Hart, I would relish the thought of training under Pep for a year or two and acquiring the knowledge and confidence to add new capabilities that are so clearly needed in the modern game. He is still a relatively young man for a goalkeeper, so he wouldn't be losing much and potentially gaining loads.
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Probably what Pepe Reina thought, 3 appearances in his only season at Bayern later those thoughts changed. Hart should move on, he's too good to sit on a bench and make single digit amounts of appearances a season.
 
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Jazzman said:
When can we expect something official about this?
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It's not clear. The injury to ter Stegen complicates matters. A lot of the rumors now suggest that the deal for Bravo will go through but that it won't be officially concluded until after Barca play their 2nd league game on the 28th (Bravo would start for Barca in their first two league games since ter Stegen can't play).
 
Terra Passenger said:
It's not clear. The injury to ter Stegen complicates matters. A lot of the rumors now suggest that the deal for Bravo will go through but that it won't be officially concluded until after Barca play their 2nd league game on the 28th (Bravo would start for Barca in their first two league games since ter Stegen can't play).
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I've concluded the same based on similar comments, rumours etc.
 
MarsLlama said:
Thing with Joe is that something crazy like 44% of goals he's conceded have been low to his left, like was said earlier on here. And it's been like that for six years. And he hasn't improved.

If he lets in that many goals in one position and he hasn't been working to improve it, then you have to wonder what he's been doing in training for the last six years.
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Ask the goalie coach, not improved one bit since he came in.
 
01cravend said:
Probably what Pepe Reina thought, 3 appearances in his only season at Bayern later those thoughts changed. Hart should move on, he's too good to sit on a bench and make single digit amounts of appearances a season.
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The other thing is, that if Hart isn't going to play for Pep at City, then there is little point him 'benefitting' from hanging around learning how to play that way, as very few keepers actually have to.
 
The thing about stats is that they don't tell the whole story. When Neuer receives the ball he has two or three players he can pass the ball to when Joe receives it invariably he has little option than to stick his foot through it.
 
Eds said:
The thing about stats is that they don't tell the whole story. When Neuer receives the ball he has two or three players he can pass the ball to when Joe receives it invariably he has little option than to stick his foot through it.
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Personally, I think the idea he's never had anyone to aim at is bullshit, but fortunately we don't even need to argue about that anymore because against Arsenal Hart had all the options he'll have under Pep, and he still put his foot through it and showed no interest in playing out from the back.
 
Pablo1 said:
That's the thing Marv, in training and warming up Hart does always look a lot more comfortable on the ball. Sadly it never did translate into a match. This tells me it's more of a mental issue as anything else. He's not unique in that regard. I've heard a few stories about players who were deemed world beaters in training until they had to go out in front of 30/40/50 thousand fans and fell to pieces. I'm not saying Joe falls to pieces but he certainly reverts to launching balls once the whistle goes.
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I've used this analogy plenty of times before.

Most of us can drive, none of us can drive an F1 car to the same standard as Lewis Hamilton.

Joe Hart has always been very poor with the ball, both with his feet and and hands.

It's just compounded further because he lacks the footballing intelligence of seeing those passing and distribution opportunities as and when.

Not his fault, he's not been in a situation before where it is being demanded as a key component for the overall way in which the team is being asked to play.

Those keepers are few and far between.

You can't teach someone to become an instinctively good footballer, it's a natural trait.

I've seen plenty cite Joe's magnificent performaces, and they were, against the likes of Dortmund and Barca in recent years.

I would argue he had to be, simply because those teams knew Joe was the weakest of the links, and he could be easily pressured into gifting possession immediately back to our opponents, if they pressed us high enough.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I've used this analogy plenty of times before.

Most of us can drive, none of us can drive an F1 car to the same standard as Lewis Hamilton.

Joe Hart has always been very poor with the ball, both with his feet and and hands.

It's just compounded further because he lacks the footballing intelligence of seeing those passing and distribution opportunities as and when.

Not his fault, he's not been in a situation before where it is being demanded as a key component for the overall way in which the team is being asked to play.

Those keepers are few and far between.

You can't teach someone to become an instinctively good footballer, it's a natural trait.

I've seen plenty cite Joe's magnificent performaces, and they were, against the likes of Dortmund and Barca in recent years.

I would argue he had to be, simply because those teams knew Joe was the weakest of the links, and he could be easily pressured into gifting possession immediately back to our opponents, if they pressed us high enough.
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Only just logged on.........Is it a given that Joe is definitely leaving?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I've used this analogy plenty of times before.

Most of us can drive, none of us can drive an F1 car to the same standard as Lewis Hamilton.

Joe Hart has always been very poor with the ball, both with his feet and and hands.

It's just compounded further because he lacks the footballing intelligence of seeing those passing and distribution opportunities as and when.

Not his fault, he's not been in a situation before where it is being demanded as a key component for the overall way in which the team is being asked to play.

Those keepers are few and far between.

You can't teach someone to become an instinctively good footballer, it's a natural trait.

I've seen plenty cite Joe's magnificent performaces, and they were, against the likes of Dortmund and Barca in recent years.

I would argue he had to be, simply because those teams knew Joe was the weakest of the links, and he could be easily pressured into gifting possession immediately back to our opponents, if they pressed us high enough.
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Any word on outgoings Tolmie? 4 or 5 players to shift and only 2 weeks to go...
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I've used this analogy plenty of times before.

Most of us can drive, none of us can drive an F1 car to the same standard as Lewis Hamilton.

Joe Hart has always been very poor with the ball, both with his feet and and hands.

It's just compounded further because he lacks the footballing intelligence of seeing those passing and distribution opportunities as and when.

Not his fault, he's not been in a situation before where it is being demanded as a key component for the overall way in which the team is being asked to play.

Those keepers are few and far between.

You can't teach someone to become an instinctively good footballer, it's a natural trait.

I've seen plenty cite Joe's magnificent performaces, and they were, against the likes of Dortmund and Barca in recent years.

I would argue he had to be, simply because those teams knew Joe was the weakest of the links, and he could be easily pressured into gifting possession immediately back to our opponents, if they pressed us high enough.
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Maybe we should try David Silva in goal.
 
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