Climate Change is here and man made

kas_tippler said:
Humans contribute 3.5% of all carbon released into the atmosphere each year, volcanos pump more into the atmosphere. Global warming maybe actually taking place but we have no control over it one way or the other.
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Totally wrong. Not sure what your source for that is but I think your 3.5% relates to the amount extra that we're responsible for in the whole atmosphere. Doesn't sound much. But before we started burning fossil fuels the natural equilibrium between what the earth naturally creates through volcanoes/animals etc and absorbs back via vegetation (that had existed for millennia (proven from ice cores) was now gone.


From The US Geological Survey... http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html


"Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually.

This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value"





We're as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.
 
1.618034 said:
Totally wrong. Not sure what your source for that is but I think your 3.5% relates to the amount extra that we're responsible for in the whole atmosphere. Doesn't sound much. But before we started burning fossil fuels the natural equilibrium between what the earth naturally creates through volcanoes/animals etc and absorbs back via vegetation (that had existed for millennia (proven from ice cores) was now gone.


From The US Geological Survey... http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html


"Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually.

This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value"





We're as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.
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Totally right, you can feel as guilty as you like........I'm certainly not.
 
1.618034 said:
Totally wrong. Not sure what your source for that is but I think your 3.5% relates to the amount extra that we're responsible for in the whole atmosphere. Doesn't sound much. But before we started burning fossil fuels the natural equilibrium between what the earth naturally creates through volcanoes/animals etc and absorbs back via vegetation (that had existed for millennia (proven from ice cores) was now gone.


From The US Geological Survey... http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html


"Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually.

This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value"





We're as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo.
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Give over, Kas is right and almost every scientist on the planet is wrong.
 
The weather is changing. So what? Need some new housing in areas where the water rises, a few more rainproof clothes and wellies elsewhere, better buildings for stronger winds, better farming techniques and fairer food distribution where famine might be more likely. A few species will die off as they do anyway, a few more will survive better in this new environment. Evolution.

Why the crazed fuss? Do people really believe we can stop anything?

People go on about overpopulation but these are babies being born. They deserve heat, food, happiness. If it's at the cost of some animals I couldn't give a sh*t.
 
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