Club Badge (merged)

frankly ... as long as we dont have a ship sat in just a puddle, i'm happy .... that bugs the hell out of me. should be the canal, a long bit body of water that it is "sailing" in ... not sat in a puddle.
 
I grew up with the Rose badge, and have a natural affinity to this one as a result. However, I'm edging towards retaining the current badge unchanged; eagle, stars and latin included, with an approved Council crest design for cup finals.

All our badges look traditional and contain meaningful attributes (except maybe the stars). I'm worried we'll go down the 'corporate image' route and end up with something soulless, that gets re-designed as each trend changes. The designs from GeekinGav are beautiful to look at, but over time they will lose impact and there'll be a desire to tweak them over and over again every ten years. If we are keeping much of the attributes, why change it anyway? City are a club for the people, and having a traditional badge suits us.

Here's my thought processes ...

EAGLE
The eagle was part of the first official Manchester City Council crest, although dropped soon after (http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/4...anchester_city_council_crest_in_to_the_future). It represented the Aerospace industry of the area. The rags used it in a badge for the 1958 Cup final (http://www.threematchban.com/Articl...club-badges-from-arsenal-to-manchester-united) although theirs looks a bit WWII-ish overall.

If we have an approved council crest for Cup finals, we are upholding a tradition and having an eagle in our normal crest gives extra validity.

M.C.F.C. or Manchester City
Using a monogram on shirts has been traditional for many clubs and our 68 final shirt had this, so I don't have a problem with it. An alternative could possibly be to remove the latin and put Manchester City F.C. and replace M.C.F.C with 'est. 1894'.

The Rose
Not relevant any more and has been dropped, can't see why we should bring it back.

The Ship
This is a given, it must stay. If only because the rags have a hilarious version on theirs.

The stripes (or rivers)
No question, these look good as they are.

The STARS
No problem for me. The only issue is we should ensure our kit makers embroider the badge in four pieces like Umbro did and not using a cheap get around on a shield.


The badge is known around the world, an eagle is renowned for being a fierce fighter, there are no offensive attributes on it, we have been successful with it and it says where we are from and that the city is ours.
 
The designs from GeekinGav are beautiful to look at, but over time they will lose impact and there'll be a desire to tweak them over and over again every ten years. If we are keeping much of the attributes, why change it anyway? City are a club for the people, and having a traditional badge suits us.



cheers .. but i havent actually done anything new, i've basically used the look of the traditional badges (there has been a few) and fused it with the modern outer band which i thuink we wont escape from that is the brand continuity now for the CFG clubs. I agree we need one badge now, one identity going forward and not change it again in 30 years, just finding that right one is the trick.
 
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Absolutely stunning mate, really outstanding. From a design point of view I can't see how even Rafael Esquer could improve on that.

I totally agree with what you said earlier, that regarding colour scheme, people should see the badge on a sky blue shirt before making a judgement.

I know you're probably getting sick of people requesting this and that, but if you have time to put various different colour options of this design on the blue shirt I think it would be invaluable for city fans to make an informed decision.

I think the gold and maroon / red crest really pops off on a blue shirt, whereas a blue and white crest might get a bit lost.

My personal preference is one of your earlier colour schemes. White roundel with navy blue writing on it. Sky and navy blue trim around the edges. Gold and maroon / red shield with sky blue behind the ship.

Thanks for everything mate, I genuinely think you've played a big part in the club taking this step because so many blues love your designs so much.
 
cheers .. but i havent actually done anything new, i've basically used the look of the traditional badges (there has been a few) and fused it with the modern outer band which i thuink we wont escape from that is the brand continuity now for the CFG clubs. I agree we need one badge now, one identity going forward and not change it again in 30 years, just finding that right one is the trick.

I think that is my point, the current badge has all the relevant components. I don't think it is perfect by all means, for instance when it is reduced in size it loses a lot of impact and can look terrible, but the main aim is how it looks on the shirt and for me it works.

We need to be concerned if we are being forced down a corporate design, in my opinion, and I think we are.
 
Absolutely stunning mate, really outstanding. From a design point of view I can't see how even Rafael Esquer could improve on that.

I totally agree with what you said earlier, that regarding colour scheme, people should see the badge on a sky blue shirt before making a judgement.

I know you're probably getting sick of people requesting this and that, but if you have time to put various different colour options of this design on the blue shirt I think it would be invaluable for city fans to make an informed decision.

I think the gold and maroon / red crest really pops off on a blue shirt, whereas a blue and white crest might get a bit lost.

My personal preference is one of your earlier colour schemes. White roundel with navy blue writing on it. Sky and navy blue trim around the edges. Gold and maroon / red shield with sky blue behind the ship.

Thanks for everything mate, I genuinely think you've played a big part in the club taking this step because so many blues love your designs so much.

i dont think Rafael is a fan of it .... lol

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