Club before Country

Pam said:
It gets on my nerves. Back in the day they would just play a qualifier mid week and still play for their clubs either end of it. What is the harm in that? But now all of a sudden we have to put up with constant and lenghty interruptions to the season. This is the second time in a month! I don't know anyone who isn't pissed of with it now.

What is worse, international football is boring. It's great once the tournament is under way but these pre tournament group stage games are usually boring mismatches at best and I don't know why the whole qualifiying process has to be two interminable years. I appreciate there has to be some way to ensure that the best teams qualify for South Africa but does it have to go on for two years? I think not.

But the friendly games are the worse. Why does everyone have to drop everything just to accommodate meaningless crap like the friendly against Holland last week. I agree with te Rag-Side on this, It us boring and ridiculous and only the little-Englander fans of Doncaster Rovers and Crewe Alexandra have any time for it.

They are pissing about with our momentum!


good point Pam, I didn't think of that...

still, for the teams who haven't done well, it's prolonging their agony too!

ehehe
 
Bazzmand Show said:
The passion I feel for comes head and shoulders above the national team. Of course I like them to do well, but I would die for this club and its in my blood. Your club represents part of who you are and whats makes you. How many experiences and memories have been shared through City, with family and friends. Tears wepped and blood shed. Im sorry but the national team does not come close, and how could I support a side made up of rag shite like Ferdinand and Shrek, players who have brought so much heartache to us in the past? Im sorry City >>>>>>>>>>> National Team. CTID.

stop apologising.... you've got things on the right way!

;o)
 
Pam said:
supermicahrichards said:
I hear ya, but the problem is players in the major leagues come not just so many different countries anymore....but continents. I mean, playing a qualifier on Wed for Tevez or Robinho, and than playing a league game on Sat....that's a lot to ask.

Perhaps but the CL clubs do quite a lot of travelling and aren't indulged the way the national team is. The rags have to travel to Russia (a good four hour flight)and Turkey either side of this month's Mnchester/Trafford derby so they could probably make the same argument. also, if there is fixture congestion as it is, then why make matters worse with pointless, boring friendlies that teach us absolutely nothing.

ManUre players are a bunch of pussies if they can't handle a four hour flight, come on, be realistic! Come to think of it, ManUre are a load of pansies.
 
Pam said:
supermicahrichards said:
I hear ya, but the problem is players in the major leagues come not just so many different countries anymore....but continents. I mean, playing a qualifier on Wed for Tevez or Robinho, and than playing a league game on Sat....that's a lot to ask.

Perhaps but the CL clubs do quite a lot of travelling and aren't indulged the way the national team is. The rags have to travel to Russia (a good four hour flight)and Turkey either side of this month's Mnchester/Trafford derby so they could probably make the same argument. also, if there is fixture congestion as it is, then why make matters worse with pointless, boring friendlies that teach us absolutely nothing.


The friendlies I agree...but the qualifiers not as much. I mean, in a true international team world tournament involving every country in the world (just about) you do need to make some sacrifices to the club game. That said I do think they should get more out of the way in the summer than they do (usually only play 2/4 qualifiers each summer), and relieve the burden on the club game during the season.
 
MCFCinUSA said:
Bazzmand Show said:
The passion I feel for comes head and shoulders above the national team. Of course I like them to do well, but I would die for this club and its in my blood. Your club represents part of who you are and whats makes you. How many experiences and memories have been shared through City, with family and friends. Tears wepped and blood shed. Im sorry but the national team does not come close, and how could I support a side made up of rag shite like Ferdinand and Shrek, players who have brought so much heartache to us in the past? Im sorry City >>>>>>>>>>> National Team. CTID.

stop apologising.... you've got things on the right way!

;o)

England's true followers mostly come from the lower divisions because it's their one chance to watch and support top class footballers, whereas most fans of prem clubs get to see that week in week out anyway. I don't understand why they wouldn't be bored to tears, though. There was some evidence of "can't be arsed' about that last friendly match where Ferdinand and Barry gifted two goals to Holland in the first half. Don't blame them for not trying their guts out. Why should they risk injury and fatigue for a shite friendly that no one ultimately gives a shit about?
 
Pam said:
Bazzmand Show said:
The passion I feel for comes head and shoulders above the national team. Of course I like them to do well, but I would die for this club and its in my blood. Your club represents part of who you are and whats makes you. How many experiences and memories have been shared through City, with family and friends. Tears wepped and blood shed. Im sorry but the national team does not come close, and how could I support a side made up of rag shite like Ferdinand and Shrek, players who have brought so much heartache to us in the past? Im sorry City >>>>>>>>>>> National Team. CTID.

Well said, Bazzmand.

Yes indeed (ups was that correct English :o)

Thats my point of view
(delete City set Schalke delete England set Germany delete Rags set Bauern)
 
supermicahrichards said:
Pam said:
Perhaps but the CL clubs do quite a lot of travelling and aren't indulged the way the national team is. The rags have to travel to Russia (a good four hour flight)and Turkey either side of this month's Mnchester/Trafford derby so they could probably make the same argument. also, if there is fixture congestion as it is, then why make matters worse with pointless, boring friendlies that teach us absolutely nothing.


The friendlies I agree...but the qualifiers not as much. I mean, in a true international team world tournament involving every country in the world (just about) you do need to make some sacrifices to the club game. That said I do think they should get more out of the way in the summer than they do (usually only play 2/4 qualifiers each summer), and relieve the burden on the club game during the season.

But IMO, the qualifiers are too often a total snooze fest.
 
Club football > International Football
Passion for Clubs > Passion for National Teams

It seems pretty obvious that Club football is preferred by the majority over international football.
 
the problem with the international qualifiers is that there are too many poor teams in the group stages.
What is the point in England playing the likes of Andorra. What they should do is have two qualifying competitions, an elite one and an emerging one. The winners of the emerging one get promoted to the elite group and countries from the elite would get relegated. That way they could play half the games they currently do and players would face less burn out, and club fans wouldn't be frustrated as now.
 

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