Colin Pitchfork

OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Problem is the UK is run by people who don't care about community safety or victims' rights. This is true regardless of who wins elections. The justice system needs to punish crime, but it is overrun with staff who prioritise rapists and killers over families and communities. Unless that changes Britain will remain a crime riddled dump.
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Or we need to return to a society that looks out for each other, rather than only caring about our own lives.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
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As long as we are members of the council of Europe we will not have capital punishment.

He has had access to the public unsupervised since 2017, and carried out some of his creepy behaviour of gifting chocolates to a female supermarket worker before he was granted parole.

His modus operandi for his crimes wasn't building connections but pulling young girls off the street. We don't know if his behaviour reflects him changing his MO or is something more innocent, he is a perverted double murderer but he is also probably a very sad lonely man after spending most of his adult life in jail.

But the conditions of his release mean he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and that is correct and proper for the protection of the public.

This isn't a failure of the system.

Even if we were able to change the law, there is no chance he would get executed because we can't pass laws that are retroactive.
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Very true about retroactive punishment, I was lamenting that when his crimes were committed we couldn't execute him, not suggesting we should do it now (not that his death would be a loss). As for the Council of Europe, we can always leave that too, and Japan and the USA are observers at the Council but still have the death penalty. No reason we couldn't do the same. Any law or international membership organisation that prevents us from protecting young girls from being kidnapped, raped and killed isn't worth belonging to.
 
deano ou812 said:
The yanks have it right in certain situations,death penalty by electrocution or lethal injection I’d give this cnut both ..
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Very true, and God Bless the USA for properly punishing criminals. We would have the same system in the UK, but in 1964, Labour got elected and abolished the death penalty against public opinion. They did so just in time to save the lives of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, who had spent a good part of the year prior kidnapping and killing kids. Successive governments of both parties have ignored public opinion on restoring the death penalty.
 
OnlyOneUweRosler said:
Very true about retroactive punishment, I was lamenting that when his crimes were committed we couldn't execute him, not suggesting we should do it now (not that his death would be a loss). As for the Council of Europe, we can always leave that too, and Japan and the USA are observers at the Council but still have the death penalty. No reason we couldn't do the same. Any law or international membership organisation that prevents us from protecting young girls from being kidnapped, raped and killed isn't worth belonging to.
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How do you work out that it protects girls being raped and murdered?

Does it still happen in the USA and Japan? Does it still happen in China?

Does rape and murder occur at a lower rate in the USA?
 
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