Common sense or ethically wrong

[Ancient Citizen]

British exceptionalism at it's best as illustrated in your post.

Well ta, I am pretty exceptional.

 

[BobKowalski]

You don’t think French and Germans have a problem with immigration?

They are worse than us.

No. They don’t. FoM is not immigration. Hardly anyone in Europe is saying let’s end FoM. No one in Holland or France or Germany is advocating stopping or removing their right to live or work in each other’s country. Thousands or Europeans live in one country and work across border in another. When Europeans talk or complain about immigration they mean from outside the EU and a lot of that is conflated with refugee flows.

 

[BobKowalski]

When Spain brings out policies that middle class gammons, lower class scrotes, and upper class wankers can not
buy properties, or retire to the Costas, your point may have merit. That there are dozens of Spanish towns and villages
that welcome these folk with open arms, as their communities are immediately enriched and prosper from them, with hundreds of
Spanish businesses flourishing because of them, I think you may have a long wait.

You mean the Spanish are not arseholes when it comes to people from Europe living there? Shame we can’t reciporcate such a tolerant attitude.

 

[Len Rum]

Well ta, I am pretty exceptional.

Not bad for you that one!

 

[Ban-jani]

No. They don’t. FoM is not immigration. Hardly anyone in Europe is saying let’s end FoM. No one in Holland or France or Germany is advocating stopping or removing their right to live or work in each other’s country. Thousands or Europeans live in one country and work across border in another. When Europeans talk or complain about immigration they mean from outside the EU and a lot of that is conflated with refugee flows.

This is just utterly untrue.

It may not be a majority and enough to cause another Article 50 vote but many dislike it-

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....dom-movement-euroep-foreign-posted-workers-eu

 

[BobKowalski]

This is just utterly untrue.

It may not be a majority and enough to cause another Article 50 vote but many dislike it-

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....dom-movement-euroep-foreign-posted-workers-eu

Yeah. When you have to go with The Dutch Freedom Party, Wilders and his far right anti Muslim mob, in the opening paras I can see where this is going. ‘Far right hate foreigners’ is kind of no shit.

Surprisingly though the rest focused on the lack of rights and protections for workers across borders under domestic law of the countries in question. A situation brought about because domestic law hasn’t kept up with the pace of FoM in Europe. Also cited the differences between West and East European nations in terms of what either wants to see FoM based on their respective economies. I don’t disagree with the first part re worker protections and as for the differences that will be an area of contention across a range of issues that only time and a greater levelling will help resolve.

Despite my initial sceptism she isn’t wrong on European nations keeping pace with worker protections in a changing Europe where borders are nothing more than lines on a map. This isn’t about FoM though. This is about Employers using loopholes to exploit cross border labour and closing those loopholes to ensure fairness for both domestic labour and cross border labour.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yeah. When you have to go with The Dutch Freedom Party, Wilders and his far right anti Muslim mob, in the opening paras I can see where this is going. ‘Far right hate foreigners’ is kind of no shit.

Surprisingly though the rest focused on the lack of rights and protections for workers across borders under domestic law of the countries in question. A situation brought about because domestic law hasn’t kept up with the pace of FoM in Europe. Also cited the differences between West and East European nations in terms of what either wants to see FoM based on their respective economies. I don’t disagree with the first part re worker protections and as for the differences that will be an area of contention across a range of issues that only time and a greater levelling will help resolve.

Despite my initial sceptism she isn’t wrong on European nations keeping pace with worker protections in a changing Europe where borders are nothing more than lines on a map. This isn’t about FoM though. This is about Employers using loopholes to exploit cross border labour and closing those loopholes to ensure fairness for both domestic labour and cross border labour.

You’ve missed the point that the far right is gaining traction because people are more and more becoming discontent with the immigration policy.

Anyway, it’s Friday and I’m off for a pint after work.

Have a good one, bud.

 

[BobKowalski]

You’ve missed the point that the far right is gaining traction because people are more and more becoming discontent with the immigration policy.

Anyway, it’s Friday and I’m off for a pint after work.

Have a good one, bud.

Enjoy.

I’m nursing ‘man flu’ so obvs I’m milking the hell out of it.

 

[BobKowalski]

From BBC NI

 

[Ban-jani]

Enjoy.

I’m nursing ‘man flu’ so obvs I’m milking the hell out of it.

Good luck, Bob.