Conscription

our professional armed forces have been eroded over the decades to the point where we have combined force numbers likely to drop below 70k before too long, which probably means a fighting force of 30-35k. its not enough
There's going to be sweet FA left to fight for anyway the way things are going.
 
Hope you like eating cabbage then, if that attitude is taken across Europe, what do you think would happen?
That attitude will be taken across Europe. What do you think the young in Germany, France, Spain etc are going to do, meekly accept a fate decided by invisible people ? It won't happen because the majority won't let it.
 
That attitude will be taken across Europe. What do you think the young in Germany, France, Spain etc are going to do, meekly accept a fate decided by invisible people ? It won't happen because the majority won't let it.
Ha ha and as the tanks roll across their homes they can bleat on Instagram how unfair it is, the Russians will massacre them, the only reason they aren’t at Polands doorstep now is because the young brave Ukrainians are holding them back. If they took your attitude we would be even nearer mobilising, if Trump wins that **** will leave us to fend for ourselves, the it will get real, Putin will see an opportunity to go for it.
 
Conscription never really worked anyway at least in peacetime. It was abolished in 1960 (different times). The army had only 2 years to train up young men the majority of which were not fully committed. Too many square pegs in round holes.
 
Ha ha and as the tanks roll across their homes they can bleat on Instagram how unfair it is, the Russians will massacre them, the only reason they aren’t at Polands doorstep now is because the young brave Ukrainians are holding them back. If they took your attitude we would be even nearer mobilising, if Trump wins that **** will leave us to fend for ourselves, the it will get real, Putin will see an opportunity to go for it.

Yup Putin will be loving what’s going on in America for the presidential election. Trump would stop all the funding and pull back on NATO leaving Europe having to come together to deal with Russia. Feels like they’ve been biding their time waiting for 2025 whilst stalemating Ukraine.
 
Hope you like eating cabbage then, if that attitude is taken across Europe, what do you think would happen?
The likelihood of needing conscription is very low. NATO can field a force of trained troops, without reservists in excess of 3.5m. Even without the US it’s over 2m.
On the basis that the defender typically has a 3 or 4 to 1 advantage (depending on what you read), Russia would need to mobilise a minimum of between 10.5m and 14m trained troops, which is not going to happen.

To me the only scenario where conscription would be really necessary is if there was a world war, with an axis formed between Russia, China and possibly Iran. But under these circumstances everyone is fucked.

Appreciate that the orange idiot who unbelievably looks like he will be getting another shot at the Whitehouse is not overly keen on NATO.
 

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