Uncle Wally One Ball
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That is where you are wrong. The nature of conspiracy theorists proves it. You believe one and you believe them all.
Jordie
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Well now you are proving yourself to be moronic.
JRockBlues
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Some quotes from a book I'm reading:
"Most powerfully, our fear of chaos leads us to crave narrative. We construct apparently coherent stories that tie things together, part of a greater sheme, an all-encompassing truth. These stories mak sense according to the way we already understand the world, but that understanding is already a flawed attempt to impose a pattern upon chaos."
"The conspiracy theory allows us to hold on to our autonomy. It tells us we can be experts too, we don't have to listen to what we're told, we can find the answers we're looking for only by journeying down the road less travelled."
Fallen Angel - Chris Brookmyre
"Most powerfully, our fear of chaos leads us to crave narrative. We construct apparently coherent stories that tie things together, part of a greater sheme, an all-encompassing truth. These stories mak sense according to the way we already understand the world, but that understanding is already a flawed attempt to impose a pattern upon chaos."
"The conspiracy theory allows us to hold on to our autonomy. It tells us we can be experts too, we don't have to listen to what we're told, we can find the answers we're looking for only by journeying down the road less travelled."
Fallen Angel - Chris Brookmyre
ninjamonkey
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5-10 years ago conspiracy theories were generally quite fun, they were madcap ideas/beliefs believed by oddballs but were at least entertaining to listen to for the sane amongst us. Nowadays, none of that is the case.
I do find it highly amusing how the person who would get a Well done sticker for writing their name correctly, on their GCSE paper, is now the most knowledgeable person around, trying to “educate” the rest of us.
I do find it highly amusing how the person who would get a Well done sticker for writing their name correctly, on their GCSE paper, is now the most knowledgeable person around, trying to “educate” the rest of us.
urban genie
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Do you though?
I can kind of believe the conspiracy aliens have been encountered and covered up.
I cannot believe bollocks like 5G masts, the new world order, sep 11th was a false flag etc
Though I am not a conspiracy theorist, so maybe you are correct, those entrenched in them twnd to nelieve them all.
abu13
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Cant agree with that at all, i can believe there was a conspiracy to cover up pedophilia in parliment and the entertainment industry but it doesnt mean that i belive in flat earth theory.
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Anyone that believes QAnon should probably be supervised at all times.
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I don’t usually believe any of these things at all.
However, I definitely believe in the theory that there was never a bloke called Jesus and he’s just a personification of the Sun. And that Christianity, and all Abrahamic religions for that matter (I don’t know enough about other major religions to say), are just a load of stories that have made up people attached to different solar, lunar and astronomical times of the year.
I’m wholly convinced of it!
The Jesus story (virgin birth on 25th December, son of god, 12 disciples, died on the cross, resurrection...) is just the latest in a long line of identical stories throughout many religions. Krishna, Odysseus, Dionysus, Zoroaster, Attis of Phrygia, Horus and many many others, all pre-date Jesus but have the exact same stories.
Then most of the rest of the Jesus story that isn’t straight-up plagiarised from those pre-Jesus figures are just taken from other pre-Jesus religious figures like Glycon and Romulus (and many more pre-Jesus figures). Then there’s more barefaced plagiarism taken from Buddha who went away to a temple at age 12 and fasted (for 47 days); and Heracles, where in his pre-Jesus story, Hera tries to kill Heracles as an infant which is the same as the Jesus/King Herod story... and Christians have barely even changed the name!
And there are no contemporary accounts of Jesus ever existing and no census ever picked him up!
Even the Moses story is plagiarised from many identical pre-Moses religious stories. The early part to the Moses story (put in a basket on a river as a baby, rescued by a Princess, raised as a Prince) was taken from the story of Sargon. And the latter part (God giving Moses the laws of religion/ten commandments) was taken from multiple pre-Moses stories, notably Mises of Egypt.
Plus there is no evidence at all that the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt and the story of the Exodus is based on no historical event recorded by any of the peoples living at or after the time of its supposed happening. There is no evidence the Hebrews ever even lived in Egypt en mass.
And then I could go on and on and on for hours (but I won’t! Haha) about all the Abrahamic religious stories and all the pre-Abrahamic religions they were taken from and show how they actually relate to the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. They are all just personified stories of our celestial year. All of them.
One I will briefly show is: Jesus
Born on the 25th December to a virgin mother - this is simply the date at which the Sun moves up 1° on the horizon for the first time after the Winter Solstice. This is the birth of the new solar year, the miracle.
12 disciples (and all the many many other occasions that “12” crops up in Abrahamic religions) - are the 12 star constellations seen in the sky through a full year... the zodiac... which the leads to...
The Resurrection - that very same event as the miracle birth. At the end of the year, the Sun dies on the Winter Solstice and is resurrected a few days later (but used at Easter* by the Christians because it marks the coming of Summertime).
Even Easter comes from Pagan rituals and festivals. Even the word Easter comes from a very ancient Northern European word for the East where the Sun rises.
Funny how all these Christian stories arise and tie-in identically with the festivals of the Northern European pagans, at a time when Northern European pagans were being converted to Christianity either by brainwashing or by force. They simply thought it would be easier to get them to convert if they could make up the Christian festivals and have them on the exact same dates as the pagan ones.
However, I definitely believe in the theory that there was never a bloke called Jesus and he’s just a personification of the Sun. And that Christianity, and all Abrahamic religions for that matter (I don’t know enough about other major religions to say), are just a load of stories that have made up people attached to different solar, lunar and astronomical times of the year.
I’m wholly convinced of it!
The Jesus story (virgin birth on 25th December, son of god, 12 disciples, died on the cross, resurrection...) is just the latest in a long line of identical stories throughout many religions. Krishna, Odysseus, Dionysus, Zoroaster, Attis of Phrygia, Horus and many many others, all pre-date Jesus but have the exact same stories.
Then most of the rest of the Jesus story that isn’t straight-up plagiarised from those pre-Jesus figures are just taken from other pre-Jesus religious figures like Glycon and Romulus (and many more pre-Jesus figures). Then there’s more barefaced plagiarism taken from Buddha who went away to a temple at age 12 and fasted (for 47 days); and Heracles, where in his pre-Jesus story, Hera tries to kill Heracles as an infant which is the same as the Jesus/King Herod story... and Christians have barely even changed the name!
And there are no contemporary accounts of Jesus ever existing and no census ever picked him up!
Even the Moses story is plagiarised from many identical pre-Moses religious stories. The early part to the Moses story (put in a basket on a river as a baby, rescued by a Princess, raised as a Prince) was taken from the story of Sargon. And the latter part (God giving Moses the laws of religion/ten commandments) was taken from multiple pre-Moses stories, notably Mises of Egypt.
Plus there is no evidence at all that the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt and the story of the Exodus is based on no historical event recorded by any of the peoples living at or after the time of its supposed happening. There is no evidence the Hebrews ever even lived in Egypt en mass.
And then I could go on and on and on for hours (but I won’t! Haha) about all the Abrahamic religious stories and all the pre-Abrahamic religions they were taken from and show how they actually relate to the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. They are all just personified stories of our celestial year. All of them.
One I will briefly show is: Jesus
Born on the 25th December to a virgin mother - this is simply the date at which the Sun moves up 1° on the horizon for the first time after the Winter Solstice. This is the birth of the new solar year, the miracle.
12 disciples (and all the many many other occasions that “12” crops up in Abrahamic religions) - are the 12 star constellations seen in the sky through a full year... the zodiac... which the leads to...
The Resurrection - that very same event as the miracle birth. At the end of the year, the Sun dies on the Winter Solstice and is resurrected a few days later (but used at Easter* by the Christians because it marks the coming of Summertime).
Even Easter comes from Pagan rituals and festivals. Even the word Easter comes from a very ancient Northern European word for the East where the Sun rises.
Funny how all these Christian stories arise and tie-in identically with the festivals of the Northern European pagans, at a time when Northern European pagans were being converted to Christianity either by brainwashing or by force. They simply thought it would be easier to get them to convert if they could make up the Christian festivals and have them on the exact same dates as the pagan ones.
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urban genie
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Tbf though not archialogical evidence exist (which is 99% the same for any persin of that time and area) Flavius Josephus mentions him twice in his writings, as heard through local word of mouth of jesus, brother of james and called the messiah, he wasn't the son of god but he was probably a local activist who got on the authorities tits.
Christmas replaced the Roman festival of Saturn when the empire went christian and had fuck all to do with some local peasants birth
The imaculate conception is nicked from the story of Guatama Buddha