Conspiracy theories......

Berts Neck said:
Well really not into politics as feel all governments are self interested and make little difference. But I will tell you a story which you can believe or otherwise. A few years back was on a skiing vacation staying in a chalet where we all met up for dinner. Sitting opposite a few people who I noted would not eat meat. So asked why they made that decision. Well these guys were doing research into prions at Oxford University. They mentioned that there was a problem with beef in the UK that it was well known,accepted, and the government was doing nothing about it. 2 years later the BSE crisis hits. Am also sure there were people who would have questioned Blair and his WMD and been shot down at the time. Sometimes, just sometimes, the minority get it right. Not many admittedly.
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Where you ona skiing holiday in the UK? If not, where the restauant importing the beef from the UK? If not, why not eat it? Perhaps they were just vegetarians / Morrissey fanboys.
 
Berts Neck said:
Well really not into politics as feel all governments are self interested and make little difference. But I will tell you a story which you can believe or otherwise. A few years back was on a skiing vacation staying in a chalet where we all met up for dinner. Sitting opposite a few people who I noted would not eat meat. So asked why they made that decision. Well these guys were doing research into prions at Oxford University. They mentioned that there was a problem with beef in the UK that it was well known,accepted, and the government was doing nothing about it. 2 years later the BSE crisis hits. Am also sure there were people who would have questioned Blair and his WMD and been shot down at the time. Sometimes, just sometimes, the minority get it right. Not many admittedly.
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There was an interesting documentary on the BBC a few years ago about BSE.

The story of Britain’s biggest ever food scandal. Since 1996, almost 200 people have died from vCJD, whilst the cattle disease BSE has been responsible for the death of over four million cows. It has cost the NHS over a billion pounds and virtually destroyed the British beef industry in the 1990s. Beneath the statistics is a story of greed, corruption and catastrophic political misjudgement by the then Conservative government. With access to all of the politicians, scientists and families who have been defined by this epidemic, this film pieces together a forgotten chapter of our recent history.

In March 1996, the health secretary Stephen Dorrell stood up in parliament and announced that a new fatal disease had been discovered called vCJD. This disease was untreatable, incurable and almost the entire British population had been exposed to it. Nobody knew how big the epidemic was going to be, but there had already been ten victims that year. What made this extraordinary statement even more disturbing was that this disease was entirely man-made.

The story of mad cow disease begins in the 1970s, when supermarkets were first emerging onto the British high street. Meat consumption was going through the roof as people emerged from World War II austerity. Britain’s farmers were under pressure to produce beef cheaply and quickly. So they started feeding their cattle an artificial protein supplement to speed up growth. This supplement was called meat and bone meal and it was made from the rendered down remains of other animals – sheep, pigs and cattle. At the time, nobody raised an eyebrow – this was progress and enabled Britain to sell millions of cheap burgers, pies and sausages to a meat-hungry population.

But in 1985, a new disease called BSE broke out on a single farm in Wiltshire. Nobody has ever discovered what caused the first case of BSE, but it spread across Britain rapidly. The cause of this spread was the meat and bone meal that cows were being fed. Infected animals were being ground up and fed to other animals, causing BSE to pass from cow to cow. By 1989, millions of animals had been infected.

What happened over the next seven years was a series of poor decisions by the then Conservative government and ministry of agriculture. They failed to stop cattle infected with BSE getting into the human food chain, and also failed to alert the public to the possible dangers posed by the disease. It was only in 1996 - when ten human victims of the human form of BSE – vCJD - had been identified that the government changed its approach. And by then it was far too late.

This film unpacks this history, and also follows what happened after 1996. The human form of BSE - called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) - has killed almost 200 people. Despite over 20 years of scientific research, scientists are no closer to discovering a cure for it, or even a test to see who is carrying it. vCJD remains one of the great unsolved medical problems. And what still alarms researchers is that they don’t know how many people are still carrying the infection, nor how many more will die from the disease.
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www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Two - Mad Cow Disease: The Great British Beef Scandal

The story of Britain’s biggest ever food scandal that created mad cow disease.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

This isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s a full blown scandal and possibly one of the biggest ever in British history!

Still, not many people talk about it now.

vCJD can lie dormant in humans and can present itself at any time and it would kill us. Everybody who has presented vCJD has died within a year of it affecting them.

There’s nothing to say that everyone in Britain who consumed beef in the 80s may have an attack of a 35-year dormant variant of vCJD and die from it. For all we know, next week, about 30 million Brits could just present with vCJD and drop dead this year.
 
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Not so much as tap water but the treatment centre, pipeline s and reservoir conditions.
We had some proper clean treatments in my city, then at aged 10 i stopped due to discolouration. Twenty years later, we had a serious contamination. After a system revamp it was clear the water was okay to drink again.

Some people were just put off thereafter.
 
Lavinda Past said:
We live in a world where supposedly intelligent people pay daft money for bottles of 'smart' water.
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Smart water isn’t even good for you. All of the calcium, sodium, magnesium etc. are removed in the distillation process. Therefore it tastes of nowt and what happens is your stomach and gut aren’t getting the usual minerals it does and wants from the water so it strips the minerals from your body’s stores and reuses them.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
There was an interesting documentary on the BBC a few years ago about BSE.


www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Two - Mad Cow Disease: The Great British Beef Scandal

The story of Britain’s biggest ever food scandal that created mad cow disease.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

This isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s a full blown scandal and possibly one of the biggest ever in British history!

Still, not many people talk about it now.

vCJD can lie dormant in humans and can present itself at any time and it would kill us. Everybody who has presented vCJD has died within a year of it affecting them.

There’s nothing to say that everyone in Britain who consumed beef in the 80s may have an attack of a 35-year dormant variant of vCJD and die from it. For all we know, next week, about 30 million Brits could just present with vCJD and drop dead this year.
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I remember watching that programme and feeling quite miserable afterwards. As a child of the 80s who was partial to a Wimpy burger fairly regularly, the thought you might have that lying dormant only to present 30 years down the line is pretty sobering.

The main takeaway was the greed and ineptitude of the Tory government at the time. The footage of John Gummer offering his young daughter a burger was sickening. They were also responsible for greatly reducing the food standards required of school dinners around that time, pretty much allowed schools to put any old shite with zero nutritional value in their meals. A party of cunts to the core.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
It’s mad as fuck how loads of people are scared of tap water.

Sometimes I think we really are doomed as a species.
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Put this question to my niece who is a scientist with Northumberland water (or whatever it's now called)

She said: Tap water is the safest water to drink as it has to reach (by law) certain levels anti bacterial cleanliness but bottled water is more or less completely unregulated.

Make of that what you will.

And..

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A few months ago a bloke called round from United utilities to test the tap water. At first I found it a bit odd but apparently it's something they randomly do, he used a chemical analyst kit and said it was ok.
Anyway, talking to him about it he said there's no way he ever drinks it.
 
Bill Walker said:
Put this question to my niece who is a scientist with Northumberland water (or whatever it's now called)

She said: Tap water is the safest water to drink as it has to reach (by law) certain levels anti bacterial cleanliness but bottled water is more or less completely unregulated.

Make of that what you will.

And..

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Yup, our local water supply is the best water I’ve ever had, bar none. You still see cunts buying crates of plastic bottles filled from who the fuck knows where
 
grunge said:
I just had a 40 page "truth paper" delivered dedicated to all your favourite Conspiracy theories. From Covid to Climate change. 5G to Cashless society....

absolute fucking clowns.
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Next issue: “15 min cities” special!

I’m still not sure what that conspiracy is but it’s the current big thing among the feeble minded.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Next issue: “15 min cities” special!

I’m still not sure what that conspiracy is but it’s the current big thing among the feeble minded.
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I like to try to understand conspiracy theories, as i believe it's possibly our best way to try and mitigate them and set people back on a level path. Not that it ever works. My take on the 15 min city theory;

15 minute cities are ostensibly a way of providing what people need in a much smaller radius, thereby reducing the need to travel and be 'mobile'. The view that they are inherently evil is rooted in the belief that society is drifting back to the age of no/low social mobility, with a totalitarian topping of mass surveillance and control.

15 min cities suggest, therefore, a defined area is required to adhere to the tyranny of green policy. The rise of devolved powers for elected mayors (see here, for example) means that these areas will have an overseer and there own rules.

The view is that travel between these areas can be restricted in the name of green policy and climate change, that people should not be in your area as they have their own facilities.

Monitoring of this will be largely aided by the ANPR network watching all cars and transport that has, in truth, taken huge steps forward in the last 5 years. A central digital currency controlled by the Bank of England (see here) will allow further control of people's spending habits and movements should they be deemed ill for UK society

When you put all the little conspiracy bits and bobs together, it becomes intoxicating, a way of making sense of the madness and authoritarianism that we see in governance. The above is what i pieced together from various conversations with conspiracy folk. I tend to believe that, unfortunately, society is becoming more controlled and risk-averse but whether we are headed toward a districted hunger games future is another matter.
 
shemnel said:
I like to try to understand conspiracy theories, as i believe it's possibly our best way to try and mitigate them and set people back on a level path. Not that it ever works. My take on the 15 min city theory;

15 minute cities are ostensibly a way of providing what people need in a much smaller radius, thereby reducing the need to travel and be 'mobile'. The view that they are inherently evil is rooted in the belief that society is drifting back to the age of no/low social mobility, with a totalitarian topping of mass surveillance and control.

15 min cities suggest, therefore, a defined area is required to adhere to the tyranny of green policy. The rise of devolved powers for elected mayors (see here, for example) means that these areas will have an overseer and there own rules.

The view is that travel between these areas can be restricted in the name of green policy and climate change, that people should not be in your area as they have their own facilities.

Monitoring of this will be largely aided by the ANPR network watching all cars and transport that has, in truth, taken huge steps forward in the last 5 years. A central digital currency controlled by the Bank of England (see here) will allow further control of people's spending habits and movements should they be deemed ill for UK society

When you put all the little conspiracy bits and bobs together, it becomes intoxicating, a way of making sense of the madness and authoritarianism that we see in governance. The above is what i pieced together from various conversations with conspiracy folk. I tend to believe that, unfortunately, society is becoming more controlled and risk-averse but whether we are headed toward a districted hunger games future is another matter.
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When you put it like that it sounds terrifying and if you lack the intelligence to realise it’s a load of utter tripe then I can see how people get sucked into it.

Having said that, I do think ULEZ and LTNs are the wrong way of going about making our urban areas and suburbs cleaner and safer. But it’s not a conspiracy, it’s just easier and more profitable for councils to do that than it is for them to invest in proper public transport and cycling infrastructure.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Next issue: “15 min cities” special!

I’m still not sure what that conspiracy is but it’s the current big thing among the feeble minded.
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One mans truth is another mans conspiracy theory, apart from the flat earth and 5G Covid nutters there's scope for all types of unbelievable shit.

We have got people on this planet who still believe in prophets gods and fairies, any other belief system no matter how bizarre pales in comparison.
 
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placing here as it could be useful. I openly admit it I nicked this from a Beau of the 5th column video.

TinEye Reverse Image Search

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An image reverse look up site. 1st step of fact checking, take any images. put them in here and find out where those images came from. this will even work with maniplulated pictures ( to an extent ) so you can start to fact check on your own.

Heres the video and the tweet he debunks in it.



 
grunge said:
placing here as it could be useful. I openly admit it I nicked this from a Beau of the 5th column video.

TinEye Reverse Image Search

tineye.com tineye.com

An image reverse look up site. 1st step of fact checking, take any images. put them in here and find out where those images came from. this will even work with maniplulated pictures ( to an extent ) so you can start to fact check on your own.

Heres the video and the tweet he debunks in it.



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Sometime in the not too distant past we used to trust journalists to look into the truth for us.

Now they are too busy grifting to actually adhere to any standard of pie in the sky professionalism.
 
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