Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

Maybe they do, when from about 193m jabs
98m were Biontech/Pfizer (mRNA),
85m were Moderna (mRNA),
and about 7m J&J (vector).

They have the perfect supply of alternative vaccines to recommend J&J for an age group with a very low risk of thrombosis.

Enjoy being banned from driving very soon!

 

[BlueAnorak]

People dying with Covid in the U.K. has passed 150k, according to the ONS.

Awful figure but it really is a lot worse elsewhere.

It's 200k plus in Russia according to their official statistics agency https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-toll-idUSKCN2AX272
400k plus according to some...

Coronavirus: How Russia glosses over its Covid death toll

The reality behind Russia's pandemic is most likely to be found in its excessive mortality rates.

www.bbc.com

 

[Healdplace]

90% of those over 50 in England have had a first dose.

92% of those in England deemed clinically most vulnerable have also had at least one dose.

They are still urging those in these groups who said no to come forward.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Interesting. Why exactly is the administration of an adenovirus triggering a clotting cascade...

I don't know. But hyper-inflammation leading to clotting is already recognised as a symptom from severe COVID cases. It surely makes moving on from these vaccines an easy decision.

 

[Indaparkside]

Awful figure but it really is a lot worse elsewhere.

It's 200k plus in Russia according to their official statistics agency https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-toll-idUSKCN2AX272
400k plus according to some...

Coronavirus: How Russia glosses over its Covid death toll

The reality behind Russia's pandemic is most likely to be found in its excessive mortality rates.

www.bbc.com

Russia Population is probably 3 times as big as ours Russia shit comparison that

 

[Healdplace]

Full data now expected by 6 pm. They are still blaming the Welsh delay. But they posted their data at 4 pm as you see earlier.

The raw details of cases and all settings deaths was issued by Gov UK as they knew it would be a delay today.

No idea if yesterday's big add on cases are being addressed (suspect not) but the cases by date of actual test are following the same VERY slow downward track and the recent blips do seem to have been largely due to an artificial fall over Easter due to very low testing.

So cases appear to be around 2300/2400 daily nor 1800 as Zoe predict.

But Zoe often seems ahead of the testing so maybe we will be at that 1900 or so for real by end of week.

 

[mr t]

These South African variant cases in London are a concern. It seems to boil down to one person who came here from Africa in February. Must be a few cases out there by now and probably still spreading which is shite as it’s thought it may be resistant to current vaccines being used here in the UK. Let’s hope it can be stopped in it’s tracks.

 

[splinter]

1.3 million vulnerable people yet to take up offer of vaccine in England..get the bloody jab will ya..

 

[1.618034]

Regional Scoreboard yesterday

Yesterday's England regional data is available - nothing having changed.

Whether it will be clarified or adjusted in tonight's data remains to be seen.

As feared the North West was indeed the highest for the first time in a while - though only just and everywhere was up somewhat. And the Southern regions added a lot too despite being at recent low levels further implying this is quite old data when they were higher.


SOUTH

East Up 263 to 369

London Up 251 to 422

South East Up 251 to 362

South West Up 202 to 204




MIDLANDS

East Up 211 to 365

West Up 190 to 311



NORTH

North East Up 121 to 184

Yorkshire Up 72 to 496

And, NORTH WEST Up 331 to 501


As you can see Yorkshire added very little compared to the rest and the NW increase was surprisingly big - indeed almost a 200% increase in the day.

So we can see where the focus of the problem was. Whatever that backlog problem is.

That it was as is being indicated driven by cases from weeks or even months ago is further hinted at by the fact that Greater Manchester only went up last night by 92 of that 331 - easily the lowest % rise by GM recently.

Indeed it in one go reduces the GM % of the NW to 43.5% - pretty much where it was up to the past few weeks. And about right for population levels in the region.

That is an extraordinary fall from 74.1% in one go and weeks in the 50s and 60s. Which I had noted often in here as puzzlingly high. And in the end stopped citing earlier this week as it was clearly not meaningful any more.

If - as now seems likely - the majority of the added on cases yesterday from weeks ago were from areas outside of Greater Manchester - the under reporting of those areas versus the more accurate seemingly reporting in GM would have distorted the pattern to make it seem GM was doing much worse than the rest of the region even whilst falling steadily.

This is speculation. I guess we will see if the numbers and percentages return to more normal levels tonight

Can you stop calling it a "scoreboard", please?

Ta.

 

[03 March 2002]

I don't know. But hyper-inflammation leading to clotting is already recognised as a symptom from severe COVID cases. It surely makes moving on from these vaccines an easy decision.

Does it?

 

[Zubrman]

I agree here as I had already noted.

I was not saying he was wrong to say what he did.

Just that he failed to mention the difference between what is causing cases right now and what is causing the huge drop in serious cases that end up in hospital or dying.

That was what he failed to clarify and why it mattered.

Of course we should not accelerate opening. But the vaccine needs to be credited too for achieving what it is doing so the roll out to younger people who will be less likely to take up does not wane.

That was my concern. They are the ones desperate to open up faster. And they need to understand why the vaccination programme is the key to staying on track to get there as if they do not get vaccinated we might all yet have to go back into lockdown. Especially given the new variant threat.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Enjoy being banned from driving very soon!

Honestly, you sound like AZ's head of PR. Are you?

You do well know that regulators of new vaccines are aware that it's about efficacy of a new product and at the same time about safety,
for the reason that healthy women and men are given an artificial product although they might never get in touch with that virus.
I think this philosophy is not fully understood.

The CVST risk profile for men and older women is by far in favour of the vaccine, for younger women it is clearly not.

We have a workaround for CVST because we have different vaccines with different risk profiles.
IMO it would be irresponsible to ignore those scientific facts.

 

[Healdplace]

HOSPITAL DATA


Good drop outside England helped a lot today. Though England admissions up slightly. UK now just over 2400 patients in hospital with Covid when it was nearly 40,000 in January. And closing in on sub 2000 in England any day now. Hopefully Ventilators sub 400 in both England and UK. With dates when numbers were lower slipping back now daily in late September or very early Octobder.

North West had the worst day today after the best over the weekend.

Net few days will tell us a lot about whether the slow down means anything or not. Hopefully the latter.





UK total:


Patients down to 2409 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 36, 839 in 85 days) :- lowest since 29 September

Ventilators down to 371 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3706 in 79 days) : lowest since 4 October


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

175 Covid admissions (11 April) following 151, 167, 167, 189, 183, 188, 156 in the week before.



PATIENTS:-

Patients down today by 51 to 2057 v 2588 last week :- lowest since 30 September

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 32, 279 in 85 days)

Ventilators: down 4 to 333 v 406 last week :- lowest since 5 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3403 in 79 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past day to today and v last week


East down 1 to 188 v 198 // down 3 to 22 v 33

London UP 1 to 521 v 601 // down 1 to 110 v 126

Midlands down 31 to 400 v 529 // down 3 to 69 v 81

NE & Yorks down 33 to 366 v 476 // down 7 to 54 v 72

North West UP 22 to 373 v 481 // UP 4 to 49 v 59

South East down 8 to 144 v 208// down 3 to 17 v 25

South West UP 4 to 70 v 95 // UP 3 to 12 v 10

 

[Healdplace]

Can you stop calling it a "scoreboard", please?

Ta.

Any reason?

 

[unicorn]

1.3 million vulnerable people yet to take up offer of vaccine in England..get the bloody jab will ya..

Just chatting to a bloke outside Sheffield pub who'd not had 1st jab yet. 60 years old, never registered with a GP, no NHS number which he thought was a problem. I told him he just needed proof of age; urged him to get it before we go inside pubs. Hopefully he's booked by now (though he was on his 5th pint). Quite a few missed like this I guess.

 

[zerox]

if no men have had blood clot, why have the Americans stopped the men from having the vac?

 

[frothy]

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Full data now expected by 6 pm. They are still blaming the Welsh delay. But they posted their data at 4 pm as you see earlier.

The raw details of cases and all settings deaths was issued by Gov UK as they knew it would be a delay today.

No idea if yesterday's big add on cases are being addressed (suspect not) but the cases by date of actual test are following the same VERY slow downward track and the recent blips do seem to have been largely due to an artificial fall over Easter due to very low testing.

So cases appear to be around 2300/2400 daily nor 1800 as Zoe predict.

But Zoe often seems ahead of the testing so maybe we will be at that 1900 or so for real by end of week.

Just an observation, but Zoe is based on symptomatic cases though, whilst the number reported at 1600 is the number of positive tests (including a fair few false positives) not cases. NHS triage down as well.

 

[Marvin]

Interesting. Why exactly is the administration of an adenovirus triggering a clotting cascade...

GOing off that abstract (which is quite old) they suggest platelets have a receptor site that is sensitive to adenovirus and possibly the lining of blood vessels are also sensitive to a structure on the surface of adenovirus.

You'd have thought another virus would have been used if this was a known problem but it is an old paper, and the science could well have moved on.

 

[Healdplace]

The Welsh delay today seems to have involved the hospital data.

I suspect they have re-evaluated some patient cases as there was a very large fall in patients over the weekend - falling from 208 to 142 in 24 hours. Which seems improbable without that.

It was obviously a big deal to delay Gov UK for hours.

This meant there was a larger patient fall in the three nations today than there was in England which is quite unusual.

Full details in the hospital report above.