Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gaylord du Bois]

90% of over 80's now vaccinated.
More than 50% of over 70's too.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

69 deaths - was 87 last week

758 cases - was 1049 last week

7.4% positive - was 9.0% last week

1939 patients (down 19) - 2010 last week

143 ventilated (same) - 150 last week

 

[Ban-jani]

Tbh I think this particular mutation will likely be fine re vaccines. I think the main concern for people like myself however is the pace of these mutations. I know it's normal, but it's still notable. We only officially announced the UK variant at the start of December. Two months later we've had the South African one, the Brazilian one and now even the UK one has mutated again. All capable of reducing vaccine efficacy. Given the shittyness of everything, it's not really unreasonable for people to feel cynical and expect the worse - further mutations, with one inevitably handing us a shit sandwich and an even bigger reduction. Might not happen of course, but you can't blame people for being concerned!

I know you hate the word 'could', but everything related to the future in this thread is a guess. It's all we can do. Some have a more cynical world view, some don't. Life.

I totally agree but I mean the media plastering it all over anywhere they can, which is making many people more down and potentially leading to more suicides, the more negative they go.

I recall a vaccine inefficiency headline in December, how many people close to the edge read that and were tipped over? When it turned out there was no actual evidence as it wasn’t true.

The government need to deal in “coulds” of course, but they and the media don’t need to broadcast negatives that aren’t confirmed.

 

[sir baconface]

Putin probably told them he'll turn off the gas supply unless they get their order in

I’m sure we all look forward to seeing Germans with three luminous tits and riot batons between their legs.

Or maybe not.

 

[Healdplace]

Scottish vaccination data:


610, 778 first doses given - 34. 881 yesterday - was 9628 day before

8345 second doses given - 496 yesterday - was 55 day before


83% of all over 80s vaccinated. 98% of older care home residents, 92% of all care home residents regardless of age and 88% of care home staff.

 

[ganganvince]

Sputnik 5 is apparently 91% effective after the second dose, but on limited numbers right now and bigger trials being completed now. Had always been sceptical about the Russian/Chinese vaccines but it dawned upon me a few weeks ago with this variant issue that we absolutely need to get these vaccines manufactured and distributed on a global basis or we could be chasing our tails for a long time here. The Russians and Chinese seem to be donating or distributing for political reasons alot of these vaccines to the poorer countries so their role in achieving this target will be vital. Can't see the EU/U.S./U.K doing too much until our own houses are in order. Hopefully they are at least safe anyway...

https://www.theguardian.com/society...inst-symptomatic-covid-russian-trial-suggests

Currently working with AZ

Sputnik V working to take AstraZeneca vaccine efficacy to over 90 per cent - Times of India

Rest of World News: With the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI) approving Serum Institute of India's 'Covishield' vaccine and Bharat Biotech's 'Covaxin' for emergenc

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Ban-jani]

I’m sure we all look forward to seeing Germans with three luminous tits and riot batons between their legs.

Or maybe not.

Can’t wait to see the EU try it on with Moscow over this vaccine.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I think the main concern for people like myself however is the pace of these mutations. I know it's normal, but it's still notable. We only officially announced the UK variant at the start of December. Two months later we've had the South African one, the Brazilian one and now even the UK one has mutated again. All capable of reducing vaccine efficacy.

This is not really unexpected.

The total number of opportunities for mutation is the same as the total number of cases.

Half the worldwide cases have been since mid- November:




The driving force for mutations which evade the immune response is the number of immune individuals the virus is exposed to. That's the same as the total of (people previously infected + people vaccinated).

But there is good news too:

(1) We've just overtaken and vaccinated more people than have had COVID* - about 100 million each as of today



*actual numbers of infected will be much higher than the numbers tested positive, but nevertheless, it's a nice milestone

and it's just possible that worldwide infections have peaked - at least we can say there has never been such a consistent fall since the start of the pandemic:

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths down week to week on first catch up day from weekend.

But NW up again.

767 in total v 875 last Tuesday

112 NW v 109 last week

All in all good news continuing the week long trend and still matching the peak of England hospital deaths in this wave being on the 19th of January as I noted yesterday the data now firmly suggests.

Deaths for that date rose today by 1 to 843. Which is still below the single day peak of England deaths in the first wave.

 

[kaz7]

if its any comfort people die through malnutrition , old age , cancer , heart disease , dementia , natural causes etc at approx 33 times the rate of death from or with Covid-19.

Your posts have been very Qanon, you havent even had it bad where you live in comparison to us