Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gaylord du Bois]

90% of over 80's now vaccinated.
More than 50% of over 70's too.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

69 deaths - was 87 last week

758 cases - was 1049 last week

7.4% positive - was 9.0% last week

1939 patients (down 19) - 2010 last week

143 ventilated (same) - 150 last week

 

[Ban-jani]

Tbh I think this particular mutation will likely be fine re vaccines. I think the main concern for people like myself however is the pace of these mutations. I know it's normal, but it's still notable. We only officially announced the UK variant at the start of December. Two months later we've had the South African one, the Brazilian one and now even the UK one has mutated again. All capable of reducing vaccine efficacy. Given the shittyness of everything, it's not really unreasonable for people to feel cynical and expect the worse - further mutations, with one inevitably handing us a shit sandwich and an even bigger reduction. Might not happen of course, but you can't blame people for being concerned!

I know you hate the word 'could', but everything related to the future in this thread is a guess. It's all we can do. Some have a more cynical world view, some don't. Life.

I totally agree but I mean the media plastering it all over anywhere they can, which is making many people more down and potentially leading to more suicides, the more negative they go.

I recall a vaccine inefficiency headline in December, how many people close to the edge read that and were tipped over? When it turned out there was no actual evidence as it wasn’t true.

The government need to deal in “coulds” of course, but they and the media don’t need to broadcast negatives that aren’t confirmed.

 

[sir baconface]

Putin probably told them he'll turn off the gas supply unless they get their order in

I’m sure we all look forward to seeing Germans with three luminous tits and riot batons between their legs.

Or maybe not.

 

[Healdplace]

Scottish vaccination data:


610, 778 first doses given - 34. 881 yesterday - was 9628 day before

8345 second doses given - 496 yesterday - was 55 day before


83% of all over 80s vaccinated. 98% of older care home residents, 92% of all care home residents regardless of age and 88% of care home staff.

 

[ganganvince]

Sputnik 5 is apparently 91% effective after the second dose, but on limited numbers right now and bigger trials being completed now. Had always been sceptical about the Russian/Chinese vaccines but it dawned upon me a few weeks ago with this variant issue that we absolutely need to get these vaccines manufactured and distributed on a global basis or we could be chasing our tails for a long time here. The Russians and Chinese seem to be donating or distributing for political reasons alot of these vaccines to the poorer countries so their role in achieving this target will be vital. Can't see the EU/U.S./U.K doing too much until our own houses are in order. Hopefully they are at least safe anyway...

https://www.theguardian.com/society...inst-symptomatic-covid-russian-trial-suggests

Currently working with AZ

Sputnik V working to take AstraZeneca vaccine efficacy to over 90 per cent - Times of India

With the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI) approving Serum Institute of India's 'Covishield' vaccine and Bharat Biotech's 'Covaxin' for emergency use, paving way for their roll-out and administration to millions, Russian Sputnik V vaccine makers have said that they are working with...

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Ban-jani]

I’m sure we all look forward to seeing Germans with three luminous tits and riot batons between their legs.

Or maybe not.

Can’t wait to see the EU try it on with Moscow over this vaccine.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I think the main concern for people like myself however is the pace of these mutations. I know it's normal, but it's still notable. We only officially announced the UK variant at the start of December. Two months later we've had the South African one, the Brazilian one and now even the UK one has mutated again. All capable of reducing vaccine efficacy.

This is not really unexpected.

The total number of opportunities for mutation is the same as the total number of cases.

Half the worldwide cases have been since mid- November:




The driving force for mutations which evade the immune response is the number of immune individuals the virus is exposed to. That's the same as the total of (people previously infected + people vaccinated).

But there is good news too:

(1) We've just overtaken and vaccinated more people than have had COVID* - about 100 million each as of today



*actual numbers of infected will be much higher than the numbers tested positive, but nevertheless, it's a nice milestone

and it's just possible that worldwide infections have peaked - at least we can say there has never been such a consistent fall since the start of the pandemic:

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths down week to week on first catch up day from weekend.

But NW up again.

767 in total v 875 last Tuesday

112 NW v 109 last week

All in all good news continuing the week long trend and still matching the peak of England hospital deaths in this wave being on the 19th of January as I noted yesterday the data now firmly suggests.

Deaths for that date rose today by 1 to 843. Which is still below the single day peak of England deaths in the first wave.

 

[kaz7]

if its any comfort people die through malnutrition , old age , cancer , heart disease , dementia , natural causes etc at approx 33 times the rate of death from or with Covid-19.

Your posts have been very Qanon, you havent even had it bad where you live in comparison to us

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v Today


747 / 97 NW / 13%

842 / 105 NW / 12%

875 / 109 NW / 12.5%

767 / 112 NW / 14.6%n Today

The slight rise in the contribution of NW deaths continues as the deaths overall decrease.

The NW always under reports at weekend so is artificially high today and tomorrow.

But as you see week to week shows it is not just that causing the rise in numbers - the % is clearly going up as numbers fall faster down south than in the NW.

Hopefully it will level off as numbers continue to go down.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Sorry I wasn’t directing it specifically at you , but the media sensationalise all the time . Just heard a professor of virology on LBC with Shelagh Fogerty who put everything into perspective, it will be available on the catch up feature they have . I’ve no doubt we will be living with this for years but as he pointed out the effectiveness of these vaccines is far greater than the majority of vaccines ever developed and mutations are the norm not the exception. I prefer taking my information from experts rather than journalists who are basically after headlines and exclusives .

Especially experts who agree with your view...

 

[Gabriel]

Scottish primary schools beginning phased return this month.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths by age:

20 - 39 (4) 0.5%

40 - 59 (62) 8.1%

60 - 79 (287) 37.4%

80 PLUS (414) 54%


Not really any obvious changing patterns here - though younger age deaths are running a little higher than they were.

But its hard to say what we would notice from the vaccine in coming weeks - though you might expect the top group would fall below 50% at some point and the top two below 80%.

If that happens as numbers fall it will be evidence of the vaccines working to stop deaths as these are the vast majority who have had doses so far.

But this is not an overnight thing. The deaths today were baked in weeks ago when we were still in the eary days of vaccination.

If nothing has changed from the above a month from now I would be a little concerned, Not now though,

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Probably the hospital.. but he could have caught pneumonia in the airport.
I agree with you regarding his age and last chance etc but we can’t slag Morgan off and all those ‘influencers’ in Dubai but then say that this is ok, he could have waited a couple of months before taking up the offer.

Agreed. I have some sympathy with Sir Tom because of his age and what he has achieved. But I despise the hundreds of thousands of selfish twats who have flown in and out of the UK in the last few months because they couldn't cope without a luxury holiday. I don't understand why this has been allowed to happen.

 

[shemnel]

Russia's Sputnik V vaccine has 92% efficacy in trial

Trials with 20,000 volunteers show the vaccine gives a high level of protection against Covid-19.

www.bbc.co.uk

im glad this is coming through, this forum has been particularly bad for "iTs RUShuN FUCK DAT" sort of mentality. Huge politics from media with anything to do with Russia, for right or wrong. I for one hope it's brilliant and helps the global cause.

 

[kaz7]

Matt Hancock said 11 cases were identified in Bristol and 32 in Liverpool, so the government will extend the door-to-door testing currently underway in eight postcodes where the South African COVID-19 variant has been spread by community transmission.

In a statement to the Commons on Tuesday, he said: "In all these areas it is imperative that people must stay at home and only leave home where it is absolutely essential.

COVID-19: More 'mutations of concern' found in Bristol and Liverpool, says Matt Hancock

Household testing will be extended as the health secretary tells everyone in the affected areas to stay at home.

news.sky.com

 

[G-Star Medium Rare]

I know it's a serious shitty disease and I shouldn't joke, but I had to smile when I just read " mutations of concern found in Liverpool "

 

[Marvin]

Scottish vaccination data:


610, 778 first doses given - 34. 881 yesterday - was 9628 day before

8345 second doses given - 496 yesterday - was 55 day before


83% of all over 80s vaccinated. 98% of older care home residents, 92% of all care home residents regardless of age and 88% of care home staff.

That is brilliant. They also said that 60-65 should get invites in Scotland for the vaccine from the 3rd week in Feb.

 

[kaz7]

The number of deaths in the second wave of COVID-19 infections has now overtaken the number from the first wave, according to Sky News analysis of official mortality figures.

According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures, which are widely regarded as the most reliable measure of deaths involving the virus, the total number of people who died in the UK with COVID-19 on their death certificate was just over 117,000 as of 22 January.

Of those deaths, 57,701 took place between the beginning of the pandemic last spring and the end of August.

Some 59,677 COVID deaths have happened since then