Coronavirus (2021) thread

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marco said:
anyone know what quantity of vaccine stock we have and expected delivery of more supplies
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Good question because I think the vaccine rate is controlled by supply as this is what the ministers and NHS officials say and I can't see why they would mislead us. I believe they have said the UK has the supply in the UK to meet the mid-Feb target but all the vaccine has to be 'filled and finished' (put in vials) and also 'batch-checked' to make sure it's not contaminated etc.

The next big supply boost could come when Moderna starts to supply the UK. I don't think anything more specific than Spring has been mentioned.
 
twosips said:
Now that is interesting. Care homes is where we should surely start to see the first vaccine signs...
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Only figure I've see are for Scotland, but last 4 weeks care home deaths have been 30% 27% 35% 22%. So seems so. Obviously these would be residents that had covid 3 weeks or so ago before vaccinations were complete or effective so the big drop should come over the next few weeks I'd expect and hope.
 
469,016 people had a first vaccine dose yesterday, taking the UK total of initial inoculations to 10,490,487.

This is equivalent to 19.9% - or one in five - of the UK's population.

Also, more than 500,000 people have now received a second jab.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
It's now just about 6 weeks from Christmas, from which point everywhere was locked down - I think it's not going to be one cause, but multiple things being factors.

@Healdplace
I've missed some of this - do you have a theory on why the NW figure is so comparatively high?
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Legacy from the huge cases on Merseyside just before Christmas when they were still kept out of the top tier. Many visited there for things they could not do around Christmas in GM,

Many of the deaths focus in there and in East Lancashire which has had big problems around Blackburn and Burnley.

Greater Manchester has come off rather better.

This impact will fall now as those cases from back then have dropped with lockdown and deaths lag by weeks as we know. So they will fall too regardless of other measures.

This is a direct predictable (and was predicted) consequence of the utterly crazy decision to treat GM differently from Merseyside.

I argued (as did others) in here for a national lockdown as the only thing that really works. Again that has been proven imo.

I said then before Christmas it would come back and bite Merseyside and much less so GM and that looks like one prediction I got right but wish I never had to make because the treatment of Merseyside was dangerous and needless.

Had they put the UK into a national lockdown pre Christmas not these dangerous tiers many lives would have been saved.

But we are where we are and they are still saying we will exit lockdown into tiers so they still do not get this it appears.

Hopefully by then it will be less important as the vaccine will be protecting most of the vulnerable.
 
kaz7 said:
469,016 people had a first vaccine dose yesterday, taking the UK total of initial inoculations to 10,490,487.

This is equivalent to 19.9% - or one in five - of the UK's population.

Also, more than 500,000 people have now received a second jab.
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Those are amazing figures.

Thankfully, this is the one thing that the Government finally seem to have got right.
 
Marvin said:
Good question because I think the vaccine rate is controlled by supply as this is what the ministers and NHS officials say and I can't see why they would mislead us. I believe they have said the UK has the supply in the UK to meet the mid-Feb target but all the vaccine has to be 'filled and finished' (put in vials) and also 'batch-checked' to make sure it's not contaminated etc.

The next big supply boost could come when Moderna starts to supply the UK. I don't think anything more specific than Spring has been mentioned.
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Is it not the case that some of these tasks are actually completed in Germany?
 
Healdplace said:
Legacy from the huge cases on Merseyside just before Christmas when they were still kept out of the top tier. Many visited there for things they could not do around Christmas in GM,

Many of the deaths focus in there and in East Lancashire which has had big problems around Blackburn and Burnley.

Greater Manchester has come off rather better.

This impact will fall now as those cases from back then have dropped with lockdown and deaths lag by weeks as we know. So they will fall too regardless of other measures.

This is a direct predictable (and was predicted) consequence of the utterly crazy decision to treat GM differently from Merseyside.

I argued (as did others) in here for a national lockdown as the only thing that really works. Again that has been proven imo.

I said then before Christmas it would come back and bite Merseyside and much less so GM and that looks like one prediction I got right but wish I never had to make because the treatment of Merseyside was dangerous and needless.

Had they put the UK into a national lockdown pre Christmas not these dangerous tiers many lives would have been saved.

But we are where we are and they are still saying we will exit lockdown into tiers so they still do not get this it appears.

Hopefully by then it will be less important as the vaccine will be protecting most of the vulnerable.
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Thanks for the detailed reply - I remember that Lancashire had high numbers.

I agree - and exactly as Myself and some of the other London-based people thought putting London in Tier 2 in December was nuts.
 
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