Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueHammer85]

And people like you trying to laugh it off, are also Bellends

ffs. Way over top reaction as always.

when I read about what happened I just feared it to be a lot worse - as in verbal abuse against him and psychically hurting him.

instead. I was quite relieved that it turned out to be a couple of brainless dickheads trying to get a selfie with him.

even so, I maintain all along they deserve some kind of punishment so quite the opposite to just ‘laugh it off’

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Daughter threw up in school yesterday so got sent home, rang school this morning to tell them she's better but obviously she'll be in tomorrow not today too be told she can't go back unless she gets a negative pcr test, despite not having any symptoms whatsoever. If she doesn't she's not allowed to go in for 10 days. Go on the government website and she's not eligible for a pcr test.

So now ive got a choice lie on the government website to get my 10 year old a test she doesnt need or let her miss another 10 days of education.

We're never ever going to get out of this shit with these grief junkies desperate for people (kids) to test positive

If she threw up in school, she is supposed to stay home for three days anyway pal.

That pretty much the rule for many a year.

 

[PragueBlue]

Dutch have apparently given the green light to using Pfizer on all those aged 12-17. It had already been authorized for use with those with particular conditions, which I believe remains the position in the UK, but it will now be rolled out to all.

Same here. Was approved a few days ago and 12-15 year olds can register for it from 1st July.

 

[johnnytapia]

Daughter threw up in school yesterday so got sent home, rang school this morning to tell them she's better but obviously she'll be in tomorrow not today too be told she can't go back unless she gets a negative pcr test, despite not having any symptoms whatsoever. If she doesn't she's not allowed to go in for 10 days. Go on the government website and she's not eligible for a pcr test.

So now ive got a choice lie on the government website to get my 10 year old a test she doesnt need or let her miss another 10 days of education.

We're never ever going to get out of this shit with these grief junkies desperate for people (kids) to test positive

We had 4 pupils who vomited at school this and last week. All tested positive for Covid. It isn't one of the symptoms per se, but it has been recognised as being a possible indicator - book the test, you'll get the results within 24hrs. If negative, she goes back, if positive you've helped reduce the possibility of other people becoming infected / poorly.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I’m not so sure that’s the case anymore mate. The new variants are attacking the young instead of the old. It seems to be how they mutate/evolve according to scientists. My youngest has just caught it and is very poorly. He’s a strong, fit and healthy lad with no health issues. He’ll be fine I know but if he had any health issues he could be in trouble. Luckily the school hols might be coming at the right time. I’m all for getting the kids jabbed to before it mutates again and again. It’s a bit gutting as well as I’m now going to miss a much needed lads golf weekend away this weekend because I’m having to isolate but the mum of the lad he caught it off has kept her sandwich shop open and taken her other son to school this morning. Bit of a piss take. I’m sure this is happening all over the country especially amongst the double jabbed community. I’ve been battling with the idea of saying fuck it and going anyway because I’m double jabbed and could get a test before. I know I’d be 99.9% ok, as would everyone I come across but I just can’t do it. I recon at least 50% would though.

That maybe true for 18 year olds +
It certainly isn't the case for kids U15.
Anyway - what do we do? Vacinate younger children? Not sure thats a good idea. Nor do NERVTAG the UK medical body overseeing this. The jury is still out on that decision.

Covid-19: Should all children get a vaccine?

The answer is finely balanced and could vary depending on where you live.

www.bbc.com

 

[BlueAnorak]

Future strains will either be more contagious or they will be vaccine evaders. Interesting that in the UAE, which has a higher rate of vaccination than we do, their most common strain is the strain that has the most escape mutations (Beta).

It might well be that this latest surge ends with mass infection of young people that effectively takes us to herd immunity but it wont last long because for each person that gets infected, you get 0.5 mutations. Mass infection = equals mass mutation. And that leads to a decline in our own immunity.

The only way round this is to get everyone vaccinated, and then to vaccinate again with an adapted up to date vaccine. We're probably not that far away from that now. Astrazeneca and Moderna both in trials with such vaccines.

Good points - but immunity against the current strain does pass on to future strains to some degree.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

No sign of much let up sadly - though deaths low

However, the positivity fall on yesterday might be due to the data issues at Lighthouse labs now being resolved and these are reported today as back to normal numbers

Hospital numbers edging up but even with these high cases daily those patient and ventilator numbers are not drastrically escalating much more than the NW displayed. Which is clearly less in both cases than it was during prior waves.

1 death - was 4 last week

3118 cases - was 2167 last week

11.6% positivity - was 9.1% last week

215 patients - up 13 on yesterday - was 176 last week

20 ventilated - same as yesterday - was 18 last week

 

[Kinkladze 1]

Daughter threw up in school yesterday so got sent home, rang school this morning to tell them she's better but obviously she'll be in tomorrow not today too be told she can't go back unless she gets a negative pcr test, despite not having any symptoms whatsoever. If she doesn't she's not allowed to go in for 10 days. Go on the government website and she's not eligible for a pcr test.

So now ive got a choice lie on the government website to get my 10 year old a test she doesnt need or let her miss another 10 days of education.

We're never ever going to get out of this shit with these grief junkies desperate for people (kids) to test positive

Hilarious. But sad in equal measure. It’s a fucking farce isn’t it.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths 20 with 4 from North West.

Last week it was 25 with 10 NW. Wk before 16 with 4.

This is quite encouraging imo.

 

[Healdplace]

More on England hospital deaths.

1 aged 20 - 39, 2 aged 40 - 59, 9 aged 60 - 79 and 8 aged 80 PLUS

Only places with more than 1 death were 2 each in Airedale and Mid Yorkshire.

3 London, 3 Midlands. 7 NE & Yorkshire, 4 North West, 2 South East & 1 South West. East was 0.

The NW deaths were 1 each in Blackpool, Lancashire, Stockport and Wigan.

All bar 2 of the 20 were over the past 5 days. The other 2 were within the past month.

28 Jun added 2 on day 1

27 Jun added 5 = 5 after 2 days

26 Jun added 3 = 4 after 3 days

25 Jun added 6 = 13 after 4 days

24 Jun added 2 = 14 after 5 days

The past 7 day total of deaths is 70 versus 47 the week before and versus 35 the week before that.

So has doubled over the past 2 weeks.

It is rising. It will continue to rise. It will likely grow. But as yet no real sign of it doing so at a worrying rate.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:


0 deaths - was 0 last week

278 cases - was 187 last week

9.7% positivity - was 7.4% last week

1680 weekly cases total - was 1600 yesterday and 1122 last week

4 care home outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & 3 last week

19 patients - was 16 yesterday & 13 last week

2 ventilated - was 2 yesterday & 0 last week.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland 1678 past week cases by age range (2 age unrecorded)

0 - 19 (649) 38.7%

20 - 39 (624) 37.2%

40 - 59 (335) 20.0%

60 - 79 (62) 3.7%

80 PLUS (8) 0.4%

Around just one in 25 still over 60 catching it and 3 out of every 4 doing so under 40.

The 40 - 59s though have been edging up as I expect more and more there get double vaccinated and go back to more normal lives. Some inevitably then catching it. Hopefully mildly because of the vaccines.

 

[Healdplace]

So total deaths with out of hospital England to come = 21

Last week it was 29 and that became 27 on all settings later.


And cases from the three nations with England to come are 3677

Last week it was 2529 - England later added 9096 for a UK total of 11, 625

Yesterday's England total was 18, 702. But we believe that did include some catch up from the data missing on the previous days.

So we could be anywhere around 20,000 - up or down - today.

 

[Marvin]

Good points - but immunity against the current strain does pass on to future strains to some degree.

I agree it will do. And then we vaccinate with a specific vaccine into that population. And that's where I think it ends (as a mass phenomenon). Unless it makes a big 'jump' it wont be able to replicate and spike at the levels we see occasionally, it will just be a slow background burn. At least that's how I imagine it. COuld be totally wrong!

 

[Healdplace]

23 all settings deaths

20, 479 cases

 

[Tonster]

20 all settings deaths

20, 479 cases

23 all settings deaths

 

[Healdplace]

Bury and Bolton had good days in GM again today. Would love to know what they are suddenly doing right.

The two lowest - Bolton 112 and Bury the only one below 100 on 88. And both down week to week as well.

Everyone else is a bit down on yesterday but not by that much and all well up week to week.

Manchester just sub 400 and Wigan just over 200 again.

Stockport still cut what was a 200 lead by Trafford 2 weeks ago in the overall Pop Score numbers to just 25 after today after catching up 17 Pop Score points again in a day following another big score from Trafford.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Sadly Russia is well and truely under the hammer of Delta now. The difference between high and moderate vaccination levels is clear for all to see now

 

[Vic]

My favourite eatery shut after a member of kitchen staff tested positive.

 

[Gabriel]

Sadly Russia is well and truely under the hammer of Delta now. The difference between high and moderate vaccination levels is clear for all to see now

Hammer and sickle, I fear. Generations to come, assuming there are any, will rightly puzzle over why Russia allowed people into the country for a silly football tournament when ambulances were already queuing for hours outside already full hospitals.
The death rate seems to be high, yet the reported new cases figures seem to be constant.