Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Congrats, Blues, we have managed to get through another week.

Some people didn't get that luxury, sadly.

We all still need to stay the course, just a few more weeks and then some of the things we took so long for granted, might come back to us.

Enjoy your weekend the best you can and remain safe.
 
It's getting towards the stage now with both BAME & anti-vac people that there's little point in still pushing the point (hehe) there's enough info out there & bombardment of media from 'trusted' members of the community & TV celebs etc that there'll be very little movement in persenteges from these people.

I'm sure the time/money could be spent better.

Things will be brought to a head.

All those people still shirking the jab will have to decide if they want to ever get on a plane again or visit a concert, cinema or pub.

The government might not be able to make the jab compulsory but if you want to have the freedoms that everybody else has thus been making sacrifices for, you will need to get with it or miss out.

Same people who don't vote but then moan about the government we get.
 
Things will be brought to a head.

All those people still shirking the jab will have to decide if they want to ever get on a plane again or visit a concert, cinema or pub.

The government might not be able to make the jab compulsory but if you want to have the freedoms that everybody else has thus been making sacrifices for, you will need to get with it or miss out.

Same people who don't vote but then moan about the government we get.
Will be interesting to see how our government plays out returning people from abroad. If for example there are many ethnic minorities that return to say Pakistan who may allow you in without a vaccine, however on return the government says you must go in a hotel for 10 days at £1750, how many of those will then get it. Same with anyone coming into this country whether they are residents or not, if you don’t have the vaccine you go into isolation and pay up.
 
Things will be brought to a head.

All those people still shirking the jab will have to decide if they want to ever get on a plane again or visit a concert, cinema or pub.

The government might not be able to make the jab compulsory but if you want to have the freedoms that everybody else has thus been making sacrifices for, you will need to get with it or miss out.

Same people who don't vote but then moan about the government we get.
The government won't make it compulsory, but other countries, other businesses will mean people need some certification. So the government will need to decide what form that's in and through the nhs provide it.

 
Will be interesting to see how our government plays out returning people from abroad. If for example there are many ethnic minorities that return to say Pakistan who may allow you in without a vaccine, however on return the government says you must go in a hotel for 10 days at £1750, how many of those will then get it. Same with anyone coming into this country whether they are residents or not, if you don’t have the vaccine you go into isolation and pay up.

I'm pretty sure it will work both ways, we will ask for a vac certificate to come in. Sounding very much like the EU close to something, even if the financially motivated Spain, Portugal and Greece would be happy to turn a blind eye to accept our holidaymakers.

Certainly those people who travel back to Pakistan, India or China, for various reasons, may have little option but to bite the bullet even if they weren't going to bother.

Not just travel, concerts, restaurants, pubs, cinemas, etc.

The government has leverage, without even having to make it law.
 
The government won't make it compulsory, but other countries, other businesses will mean people need some certification. So the government will need to decide what form that's in and through the nhs provide it.


They don't need to make it compulsory.

But if you want to go to a football match or concert, get on a plane, you will be shit outta luck.
 
The government won't make it compulsory, but other countries, other businesses will mean people need some certification. So the government will need to decide what form that's in and through the nhs provide it.


Yes, via tech within the NHS track and trace, can be the only way?

Imagine the counterfeit forgery industry if it were just a hand held card?
 
Yes, via tech within the NHS track and trace, can be the only way?

Imagine the counterfeit forgery industry if it were just a hand held card?

I’ve read that the government is looking at recording your vaccination status within the NHS app (not the track & trace app). This is the one that has your records on and with which you can make appointments, order prescriptions etc.
 
England hospital deaths today slightly concerning. Smallest fall week to week in a while now,

307 - down from just 315 last Friday.

But the reason is clear. A truly terrifying number from the North West.

The highest ever.

106 - over a third!!!

It may be a lot of backdating. Hopefully.
 
44 of the NW deaths were in Liverpool, 19 in Manchester and 11 in Pennine Acute.

So with a few other add ons - 6 Stockport and 5 St Helens the biggest - the vast bulk of this huge NW death total was in these two metro counties.

That Liverpool number is the highest from one trust in one day I recall seeing recently.
 
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