Coronavirus (2021) thread

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There are many counter-arguments that can be made to your post. For example:

1 - You're suggesting the vaccine poses a risk to healthy individuals who are at very low risk of dying from COVID, we would also have to compare the health of people dying after the vaccination - is it only killing the incredibly vulnerable? If that's the case then someone like myself as a healthy individual has little to fear? This would essentially make your point redundant.

2 - The probability that 'everyone has already had COVID twice' is close to 0. There's no evidence to support this, and even if we'd all had it twice (which we haven't) then there's clearly an issue with subsequent contaminations that hopefully a vaccine can help us avoid.

3 - The vaccine rollout is literally costing our Government billions. We're also haemorrhaging money whilst the country stays in lockdown. There is no financial incentive, other than the re-start of the economy. Also, the majority of 'the chemical companies' investment was paid for by the UK government (in AstraZeneca's case anyway).

I think it's good for people to be sceptical and to question things. But at least base your arguments on solid facts rather than trying to spread fake news.
Thanks for a good reply No 1 your talking double dutch, No 2 the probability that everyone has had COVID twice is 0, but the probability of a huge % having had it twice is a 100%, No 3 just how many times are you and everybody else in the world going to take this drug that last 6 months when COVID has lasted a year so far,
 
It just seems to me @Healdplace that there was a plateau in decline a few weeks ago but then things began to decrease again, this time round it seems to have skipped the plateau stage and gone straight for growth. Not too big on the % positive side yet which is perhaps the one silver lining. As you say, I really hope this doesn't transfer into hospitals and ICU but even though they are still on the decline this will be reflective of the cases declining up until recently. I'd have liked to have seen us at a much lower base level before cases (inevitably) would go up when schools returned and restrictions eased.

Do they have the same testing regime in Scottish schools?
 
One academy school? and

I'm not sure what people are expecting to be honest. They are testing every secondary school pupil and locking down any classes with positive tests. The fact that there have been so few of these instances, and they are actually finding the one in however many million pupils that may have the virus is massively encouraging.
 
Which government? Every single one in the world secretly operating together, or just ours? And if you could elaborate on how free-to-the-patient vaccines make more money for a government than the entire economy (which they've closed), that would be good too.

I can't wait until this eventually passed now that every government is able to work together so closely and not have one whistleblower worldwide. To think we were worried about the logistics or exporting cheese to the EU a few months ago because we couldn't agree on anything with them.
 
England hospital deaths 132 with 20 from NW - versus 174 and 40 last week.

Another lot of back dating. Some cases from March and April last year.

And 20 more than a month old again.
 
132 England hospital deaths by region:

32 Midlands, 25 East, 25 NW & Yorkshire, 20 North West, 13 London, 11 South East, 6 South West~

11 Norfolk. 8 Leeds the most 5 in Liverpool most in NW.

By age:

40 - 59 (13) 9.9%

60 -79 (54) 40,9%

80 PLUS (65) 49.2%
 
I can't wait until this eventually passed now that every government is able to work together so closely and not have one whistleblower worldwide. To think we were worried about the logistics or exporting cheese to the EU a few months ago because we couldn't agree on anything with them.
I know. Humanity is saved. World peace is imminent. I always knew that humankind could collaborate and it took a virus to prove it. It can't have been easy getting the likes of North Korea, Uraguay, Russia and the USA to work together so someone has pulled a blinder. Maybe it was Marcus Rashford.
 
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