Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I don’t work, I get fuck all as £19 a day is basically fuck all. Millions will be like me so telling me I have to isolate for 10 days is all good and well but when they then say, btw, we ain’t paying you I think I know what many are going to say and do…
I thought furlough money was a good thing but when you look at how much it cost - made worse by all the fraudulent claims - then surely they could’ve also done far more for those who test positive for Covid as well.
 
This thread is a perfect example of the work the behavioural scientists have done in creating and them and us mentality amongst the public. Do as we say and you are a super human being, caring, lovely etc. Stray from the path we want and well, you’re a bit of a **** really and it’s only right the saints amongst us should turn on you.

Never an acceptance of responsibility for their policies, no, make it the publics fault, well those who dare to question us anyway.
My virtue knows no bounds. Let the unvaccinated die.
 
Why are the UK medical and scientific experts saying the opposite of those in South Africa who have real-life data not models? I am genuinely confused by the mixed messages. Today Chris Whitty said today "It is really serious. What we know is bad." That is a total contradiction of what the South African data suggests and what their experts say.
If the Government is going to make these frightening statements the least they can do is provide some evidence. No one is arguing there are a lot of potential cases but what is the detail behind our modelling. The UK media is too busy reporting Covid as a political story instead of challenging the substance of the narrative.
 
We did have our differences mate and fuck me, I should have listened a bit more because this lot we have in charge couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery but eh, that’s for a different thread.

We have toddlers who have grown up seeing fellow humans in masks almost all the time. We have kids whose schooling is being massively disrupted. We have a workforce whose livelihoods are being fucked over because we are forcing their employers to close their doors or adopt the way they work. We have people who can’t get a GP appointment and possibly then will die of a disease that might have been treatable had we not reacted in the way we did. I could go on and on but to take the biscuit, it’s now for me and you and everyone else to protect the NHS, to do our duty……not our leaders, the fuckers who take our money and then squander it whilst running our public services down like the NHS and social care, no, it’s for me and you to do.

Joke!

You know I get this I’m teetering myself but the one thing that won’t allow me to is - we know our govt are crap but the whole world to one degree or another is following a similar path. All these politicians and scientists etc can’t have all gone mad or have shares in vaccine producers.

Every life has a price I have said this from the beginning I’m still not sure what that price should be. Should we let someone die to help a kids education, should we let someone die to save a pub. I would like someone to honestly say listen I think this number of deaths is acceptable to save a countries economy. Let’s have it.
 
Agree, but the life expectancy is SA is 64.3 years and in the UK it is 81.2. The age group that are most vulnerable in the UK are not there in sufficient numbers in SA.
But the uptake here in booster vaccines for people over 60 is huge. Most of them were also double jabbed and a big number have also had Covid and developed natural immunity.
 
I think that's a good thing. It's given many (me included) a thought process whereas everything is OK or at the very least a lot better than it was. We're double jabbed etc but you can still get catch it and pass it on. At best you end up with the inconvenience of being off work and at worst you can potentially pass it on to someone who could get very poorly having caught it.

To end all restrictions socially has given out the wrong message.

So…we live under varying degrees of lockdown forever?
 
You know I get this I’m teetering myself but the one thing that won’t allow me to is - we know our govt are crap but the whole world to one degree or another is following a similar path. All these politicians and scientists etc can’t have all gone mad or have shares in vaccine producers.

Every life has a price I have said this from the beginning I’m still not sure what that price should be. Should we let someone die to help a kids education, should we let someone die to save a pub. I would like someone to honestly say listen I think this number of deaths is acceptable to save a countries economy. Let’s have it.

Depends which pub.
 
So…we live under varying degrees of lockdown forever?

before omicron came along they were teeing us up for a lockdown for flu as they said they were expecting a flu wave due to reduced immunity from the Covid years and we all should get our flu jabs ASAP to help the nhs not get overwhelmed.

no need to mention this now they have omicron to do their deed.
 
How everyone feeling after their booster

Sore arm is the main thing. I feel very mildly under the weather & have achy muscles, mainly in my back, but all pretty tame and nothing really to write home about. Just had a few paracetamol and I was right.
 
So…we live under varying degrees of lockdown forever?
Not forever no but a degree of restriction socially wasn't that hard to accept a few months ago.

Table service, fewer numbers being allowed inside, timed visits etc helped to keep people focused on being considerate that the virus is still about.

It also put a lot of people off going out altogether which wouldn't have been a bad thing from the scenes I saw whilst in town on Saturday.
 
Not forever no but a degree of restriction socially wasn't that hard to accept a few months ago.

Table service, fewer numbers being allowed inside, timed visits etc helped to keep people focused on being considerate that the virus is still about.

It also put a lot of people off going out altogether which wouldn't have been a bad thing from the scenes I saw whilst in town on Saturday.

All that comes at a great, great cost though. Surely you get that? We can't accept that. It kills livelihoods and professions. People's mental health with it too.
 
Not forever no but a degree of restriction socially wasn't that hard to accept a few months ago.

Table service, fewer numbers being allowed inside, timed visits etc helped to keep people focused on being considerate that the virus is still about.

It also put a lot of people off going out altogether which wouldn't have been a bad thing from the scenes I saw whilst in town on Saturday.

The cost to human beings from this is just too much I’m afraid. We might not get that right now or some might not see it but it’s there imo and we will see it down the line.
 
All that comes at a great, great cost though. Surely you get that? We can't accept that. It kills livelihoods and professions. People's mental health with it too.
It also came when there was a degree of financial compensation in place for many businesses and people. That safety net has been withdrawn, I believe, so there could be terminal harm ahead if the situation deteriorates quickly.
 
All that comes at a great, great cost though. Surely you get that? We can't accept that. It kills livelihoods and professions. People's mental health with it too.
Won't having to self isolate for 10 days when displaying symptoms potentially have exactly the same affect on livelihoods, professions and mental health.

Allowing everyone to roam completely free is likely to increase cases and increase isolation time.

I'd say isolation is far worse than having to.put up with a few restrictions like the ones I've mentioned.

Personally other than reduced capacity at City non of the restrictions like face masks, booking tables etc bothered me too much abd in hindsight since contracting the virus I wish they'd have been in place at the weekend.
 
All that comes at a great, great cost though. Surely you get that? We can't accept that. It kills livelihoods and professions. People's mental health with it too.

This is likely. Any society that finds itself obliged to shift or alter its behaviour will create industries as well as destroying others that cannot evolve with the society it serves.

It’s a small example, but our local Sainsbury’s has shuttered its deli and butcher counters. Two factors. One is Covid causing a drop off in footfall and the other is supply issues, so they have responded to changed circumstances.
 
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