Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Churchlawtonblue said:
Not wanting to get involved in an argument, but I could just point out that that is clearly a rate of vaccination and not cumulative. So doesn't actually indicate that the EU has caught up so to speak?
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Of course it doesn’t. It’s why his original post was totally irrelevant.
 
BlueAnorak said:
All the data is here.
ourworldindata.org

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. Population estimates for per-capita metrics are based on the United Nations World Population Prospects. Income groups are based on the World Bank classification. A full list of our...
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You're wong on just about every count.
Go ahead though and keep imagining how much better the EU is doing than the UK.
I shall snigger.
Oh and companies are producing the vaccine not countries. Moderna and Pfizer are US owned for example.
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You can prove anything with complete data and cogent thought.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Not wanting to get involved in an argument, but I could just point out that that is clearly a rate of vaccination and not cumulative. So doesn't actually indicate that the EU has caught up so to speak?
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Agreed, and I tried to be very clear about that from the start, obviously without much success! I would be surprised if the EU as a whole does "catch up" however that's defined. Some countries will - Malta already has.

The reality of vaccination is that there's not likely to be that much in the end between us and most of the EU, and what there is may well come down more to hesitancy than supply.

Our long hard winter and spring lockdown has differentiated us from most of the continent - like Portugal - as much as our vaccination status.

It's interesting how hard it is to even discuss these issues here, such is the power of the British vaccine narrative.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Just read an article on the BBC webpage about the rising cases in Bolton. The journalist didn't mention a possible link with people coming back from India and spreading the Indian variant? Deprivation, bus routes, population density and young people attending colleges were seemingly given as a reason/cause why the rates have gone up? Mustn't be any of those factors elsewhere in the country then which is good news??

Depressingly they did however mention that Bolton's areas of lowest vaccine take up are now associated with the areas of highest cases which is worrying for people getting ill and possible future hospital admissions and people dying. If ever there was strong evidence of why people need to take the vaccine this is it.

I think they need to increase the vaccine distribution in these areas like Burnham said but also lock these parts of Bolton down for a couple of weeks, its currently a local problem and they need to try and do everything to try and keep it a local problem. The council and police need to patrol these areas educate people and enforce the lockdown.
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People have to want to take the vaccine up. Sadly too many people have listened to multiple varieties of covidiot and that leads their communities being exposed to this disease.
 
7 England hospital deaths. With 1 from the NW.

Last week was 12 with 0, wk before 14 with 2 then 19 with 4.

The first single figure Friday number since late last Summer.

One of the 7 is over a month old too.
 
BlueAnorak said:
People have to want to take the vaccine up. Sadly too many people have listened to multiple varieties of covidiot and that leads their communities being exposed to this disease.
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Perhaps a local lockdown is what is needed to make people realise that the only alternative is to get vaccinated.

Some people are just stupid.
 
More on England hospital deaths:

The NW death was in Tameside and Glossop (still none in Bolton btw - though early days but the longer this goes on the better)

NO other UK trust had more than 1.

3 were in NE & Yorkshire and the other 3 one each in London, Midlands and South West.

East and South East had 0.

1 of the 7 was aged 40 - 59 and 1 was over 80

The other 5 were 60 -79.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The figures I quoted are from that source. They directly contradict what you said.

You just haven't read what I actually wrote. I can't help you with that, I'm afraid.

The EU are currently vaccinating more people per capita than we are (there's a big dip on the last day of reporting, but that's normally an artefact and will almost certainly be updated later)

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It's fascinating how powerful narrative is.
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So you're actually saying that they have only caught up on our vaccination rate? That's not what catching up on vaccinations means in most people's heads.
I should bloody well hope they've caught up on the rate, as so far they've been woeful.
We had vaccinated their overall number of vaccinations (per capita) by late Feb.
How will catching up on rate of vaccination get them to catch up on the overall numbers?
We will vaccinate as many as they are at the same rate (per capita) so we will remain 3 months ahead till all those that need to be jabbed are jabbed. It really isn't rocket science let alone rocket engineering
 
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