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The PHE stats out today suggest about half of current o50s deaths are double jabbed, so that's probably as good a guess as any for these.
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The PHE stats out today suggest about half of current o50s deaths are double jabbed, so that's probably as good a guess as any for these.
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Did you read my reply above?
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And possibly most or all with other conditions.
Last week a report stated that Covid wasn’t the primary cause of death in 40% of UK fatalities. With the number of deaths so low now I’d expect that proportion to be higher.
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Yes it is just not as simple as double jabbed and still died. No point in having it. As some might believe on seeing the numbers. Understandably as it seems logical.
As has been discussed in here already today from the data out on the numbers from hospital you can easily be mislead into panic at seeing the deaths of people you assume have been double jabbed due to age even if they actually were double jabbed. Which is not even a given.
The ones who die tend to have underlying health conditions lowering immunity. Always have from day 1. There are just more of those over 60 for obvious reasons.
The vaccines are saving many of them but no vaccine will save them all. Happily it IS stopping the majority of them even catching it as the data conclusively and overwhelmingly shows.
Look at the age range on the previous page of the total cases in N Ireland in the past week and see how many over 60s even caught it let alone were at risk of dying after catching it.
Just 48 out of 1221.
If you do not catch it or it is signifcantly mitigated THAT is the key not the reality that some people will always be unlucky.
We see maybe 10 people doyble jabbed dying. We do NOT see the 1000 who would have died had rthey NOT been double jabbed. Because they are in the vast majority who never caught it so never went to hospital or died.
In every wave up to now if only a handful of people were dying each day as at present we would have been relieved.
These are at present at that level with many many more cases around and yet the same death numbers we were getting before we even went into the first lockdown 15 months ago.
As has been discussed in here already today from the data out on the numbers from hospital you can easily be mislead into panic at seeing the deaths of people you assume have been double jabbed due to age even if they actually were double jabbed. Which is not even a given.
The ones who die tend to have underlying health conditions lowering immunity. Always have from day 1. There are just more of those over 60 for obvious reasons.
The vaccines are saving many of them but no vaccine will save them all. Happily it IS stopping the majority of them even catching it as the data conclusively and overwhelmingly shows.
Look at the age range on the previous page of the total cases in N Ireland in the past week and see how many over 60s even caught it let alone were at risk of dying after catching it.
Just 48 out of 1221.
If you do not catch it or it is signifcantly mitigated THAT is the key not the reality that some people will always be unlucky.
We see maybe 10 people doyble jabbed dying. We do NOT see the 1000 who would have died had rthey NOT been double jabbed. Because they are in the vast majority who never caught it so never went to hospital or died.
In every wave up to now if only a handful of people were dying each day as at present we would have been relieved.
These are at present at that level with many many more cases around and yet the same death numbers we were getting before we even went into the first lockdown 15 months ago.
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You would hope so but I know a few that are not.
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55 cases amongst over 65s in the 1700 odd cases in Scotland today. All be it that comes with a caveat as the 1700 figure is suspected to be 800-1100 low due to a processing issue as Healdplace has already commented on. So the 55 number will presumably be low too but by how much I've no idea.
Here's a graph showing a huge decline, the unfortunate news is this is the rate of vaccinations. I've no idea what's going on but 14.5k first doses and 15k second doses only today, and this pattern is following a downward trend just when we really need to be accelerating things.
Here's a graph showing a huge decline, the unfortunate news is this is the rate of vaccinations. I've no idea what's going on but 14.5k first doses and 15k second doses only today, and this pattern is following a downward trend just when we really need to be accelerating things.
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Three nations cases today are 2312 - with the caveat of those missing Scottish cases that may be as many as 1000 atop.
Last week the number was 1291.
Last week the number was 1291.
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18 all settings deaths. It was 11 last week.
15, 810 cases (was 10, 476 last Friday)
From 1, 052, 825 pillar 1 & 2 tests - down about 92K on yesterday. So a positivity increase.
Though 30 K more than for the 10, 476 cases last week.
Also recall the missing Scottish cases before celebrating this as a fall on yesterday. It almost certainly is not. But is fairly flat on yesterday.
England cases are UP by 430 day to day to 13, 498 v 9185 last week.
So that is a 50% rise on the week.
15, 810 cases (was 10, 476 last Friday)
From 1, 052, 825 pillar 1 & 2 tests - down about 92K on yesterday. So a positivity increase.
Though 30 K more than for the 10, 476 cases last week.
Also recall the missing Scottish cases before celebrating this as a fall on yesterday. It almost certainly is not. But is fairly flat on yesterday.
England cases are UP by 430 day to day to 13, 498 v 9185 last week.
So that is a 50% rise on the week.
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GM highlights
Not a particularly good day again for Greater Manchester. Though it was well below the 50% rise in the NW region both day to day and week to week.
Cases up 31 on yesterday to 1572. And up 266 from last Friday. ~
NW equivalent rises 122 daily and 686 week to week.
Tameside and Bury the only ones sub 100 and both in the 90s.
Salford and Wigan both in the 200s - though only just in both cases.
Manchester still high at 371.
Even Stockport had its highest number in months - 126.
So a lot of weekly Pop score rises unfortunately.
Bolton at 118 is down both day to day and week to week and is actully seriously closing in on going from the worst in GM to the best as it continues to inch down and Stockport's good days seem to have inched upward.
Mind you Stockport still caught up another chunk on Trafford in the lowest Pop Score over the entire pandemic (which from day 1 in March 2020 has been between these two boroughs). As Trafford continues to score big.
The Trafford lead which was 200 a couple of weeks ago is down to 90.
SIX GM boroughs had more cases than Bolton today. The most in one day since it has turned things around.
Not a particularly good day again for Greater Manchester. Though it was well below the 50% rise in the NW region both day to day and week to week.
Cases up 31 on yesterday to 1572. And up 266 from last Friday. ~
NW equivalent rises 122 daily and 686 week to week.
Tameside and Bury the only ones sub 100 and both in the 90s.
Salford and Wigan both in the 200s - though only just in both cases.
Manchester still high at 371.
Even Stockport had its highest number in months - 126.
So a lot of weekly Pop score rises unfortunately.
Bolton at 118 is down both day to day and week to week and is actully seriously closing in on going from the worst in GM to the best as it continues to inch down and Stockport's good days seem to have inched upward.
Mind you Stockport still caught up another chunk on Trafford in the lowest Pop Score over the entire pandemic (which from day 1 in March 2020 has been between these two boroughs). As Trafford continues to score big.
The Trafford lead which was 200 a couple of weeks ago is down to 90.
SIX GM boroughs had more cases than Bolton today. The most in one day since it has turned things around.
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