Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Is it true that if your NHS app tells you to self isolate then it’s only advisory ( not law ) to isolate . I can only find the Grant Shapps news article but can’t see anything official that backs this up . Thanks
Just turn it off like the vast majority have now done.
 
Cases do matter (although less so that deaths and hospitalisations).

Btw I had a first hand glance of the economic impact yesterday, albeit it in a minor way. I was due to be working at a house but that was kiboshed because the occupants have Covid.
 
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Looking at those Netherlands figures is getting me very nervous. Far more than any stats we’ve seen over here.

think there needs to be some serious incentive for under 35’s to vaccinate at a much higher rate than they are.

Tax cuts or tax rises depending on your vac status? Money off holidays for double vacc’d? Hotel quarantine after travel abroad for anyone offered a vaccine but refused it irrelevant of green or amber list?
You can't go abroad any time soon if your not vaxed should be sufficient. Not having your club med sun, beer and sex should be enough of a threat for our young heddonists.
 
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You can't go abroad any time soon if your not vaxed should be sufficient. Not having your club med sun, beer and sex is enough of a threat for our young heddonists.
Read this morning that only half of men aged 18-24 in the U.K. have come forward to be vaccinated, so I’m not sure whether a carrot or stick approach is required, or a combination of both.
 
Read this morning that only half of men aged 18-24 in the U.K. have come forward to be vaccinated, so I’m not sure whether a carrot or stick approach is required, or a combination of both.
Carrot and Stick is required I think.
Actually, it's going to be a rights vs responsibilities slug fest going forward but there you go.
Perhaps vax passports to enter nightclubs are required? I was against it, but perhaps it's essential.
 
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nightmare when it happens to your kids even though the stats tell you to be cool you can't help going into the paranoid parent zone - my lads have had 5 tests in the last two weeks due to close contacts - reminded me of staring at those pregnancy test kits back in the day either with eager anticipation or dread...

Sure your lad will be fine especially with the first jab a month ago as the stats on that are still very good against hospitalisation etc after 1

Fingers crossed. Just found out one of the daughters classmates has it too so that’s another 10 day isolation and me having to work at home. That’s twice in a month now!
 
I think it's unlikely we'd see the same explosion. I get the impression many of our young people have already caught it.

From the graun:


Professor Sir Ian Diamond, the UK’s National Statistician has told Sky News that about nine in ten people in England and Wales have antibodies against coronavirus, up from two in ten in January.

The group with the lowest at around about 60%, is those age of 15 to 24, he said


No idea what the equivalent NL figures are, but that 40% susceptible, plus the fact that a fair slice of the 60% will be single vaxxed which is much less protective, suggests there is plenty of shoe for a further surge here yet.
 
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Professor Sir Ian Diamond, the UK’s National Statistician has told Sky News that about nine in ten people in England and Wales have antibodies against coronavirus, up from two in ten in January.

The group with the lowest at around about 60%, is those age of 15 to 24, he said


No idea what the equivalent NL figures are, but that 40% susceptible, plus the fact that a fair slice of the 60% will be single vaxxed which is much less protective, suggests there is plenty of shoe for a further surge here yet.
And in Manchester 15% of 18-24 are fully vaxed and less than 50% of them have a 1st jab.
 
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Professor Sir Ian Diamond, the UK’s National Statistician has told Sky News that about nine in ten people in England and Wales have antibodies against coronavirus, up from two in ten in January.

The group with the lowest at around about 60%, is those age of 15 to 24, he said


No idea what the equivalent NL figures are, but that 40% susceptible, plus the fact that a fair slice of the 60% will be single vaxxed which is much less protective, suggests there is plenty of shoe for a further surge here yet.

This is probably too simplistic thinking here but does this mean that at some point case numbers are going to, in effect, hit a wall and just fall like a stone? Rather than the slow decrease we usually see?
 
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