Coronavirus (2021) thread

[worsleyweb]

Groundhog day as yet again it turns out that the virus is entirely unmoved by political rhetoric.

Shockingly even the same old schtick from a new health secretary has had bugger all effect on an infectious disease.

Who would have thought it?

At least the Dutch PM apologised.

not many are dieing though. We can’t be locked up forever and live like this forever.

 

[paulchapo]

Make sure you follow Blojo's advice and don't have a 'great jubilee' on July 19th mate.
On the other hand I'm sure you can treat yourself to a frozen jubbly.

I don't need to I've been going to the pub once or twice a month since allowed. I'm far too old for clubs thankfully and I was amongst the lucky 10,000 at City v Everton. I've queued outside shops and I wear my mask. I've also heard of two ex shipmates younger than me die of a heart attack in the last six weeks, none had covid. I'm going to live my life without fear as fully as possibly in the parameters allowed. None of us know how long that is but I've wasted over a year already.

 

[Healdplace]

UK HOSPITAL DATA

Not really able to do this correctly until Wednesday as N Ireland data will not resume until then,

Scotland is up to date but Wales a few days old.

But N Ireland has 60 patients and 0 ventilators at last count (V 32 patients and 1 ventilated last week)

Scotland as of today 469 patients and 40 ventilators (V 338 patients and 30 ventilators last week)

Wales 65 patients and 5 ventilated (V 50 patients and 4 ventilators last week)


So 594 patients v 420 last week & 45 ventilated v 35 last week




AND SO THE UK TOTAL AS BEST WE CAN CALCULATE TODAY IS: 3392 patients (was 2308 last week) Up not much under 50% in the week,

And Ventilators 478 (was 365 last week) - a slightly smaller increase

 

[ayrshire_blue]

2,134 cases in Scotland, plus more as there's yet another IT issue so a delay in processing an unknown amount of cases.

128 in people aged 65+
394 in people aged 45-64

767 in people aged 25-44
827 in people aged 0-24

The last category broken down further

287 aged 0-14
540 aged 15-24

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0 deaths (Sunday data)

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Under 6k first doses (soon have more IT issues than first doses going out at this rate)

16k second doses

 

[argyle]

Israel opened up fully and then reversed it with mandatory mask wearing.

Netherlands has just done the same and closed nightclubs.

I expect England to do the same at some point.

It seems it needs saying again, lockdowns, masks, etc aren't to stop covid they are to prevent health systems from being swamped.

 

[Healdplace]

On 17 December - PRE VACCINES - going into the last wave - we had 35, 383 cases (v today 34, 471)

On that day there were 18, 970 patients in UK hospitals (v 3392 today) this is just 17.9% of them.

And 1366 on ventilators (v 478 today) this is 35% of them.

On the nearest Monday to then (Mondays are always lower due to weekend limited registration) the deaths were 215 v 6 today. A huge drop you do not need a percentage to see (is about 35 times smaller)



There were 33, 552 cases on the downslope coming out of the wave on 23 January - after the peak of all numbers that week.

On that day there were 37, 398 patients( in UK hospitals (v 3392 today) this is just 9%

And 4066 ventilators (v 478 today) this is just 11.8% of them.~

On 25 January (nearest Monday again) there were 592 deaths (v 6) - as you can see 1% of the total.


Going into the wave versus coming out is obviously more comparative.



So this suggests about 6 times more people were in hospital then without vaccines as now

And 3 times as many were ventilated - though more now might be on them as a precaution because there is that leeway that did not exist with so many more Covid patients then v now.

And a large number of people who would have died - between 35 and 100 times fewer are no longer dying.

THAT is the message to take on board as it is why we are opening up at what seems like a crazy time to do so.

 

[grunge]

Israel opened up fully and then reversed it with mandatory mask wearing.

Netherlands has just done the same and closed nightclubs.

I expect England to do the same at some point.

It seems it needs saying again, lockdowns, masks, etc aren't to stop covid they are to prevent health systems from being swamped.

we 100% should have stuck with masks for a fair while yet.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

My 10-year-old daughter told to isolate for ten days today after a girl tested positive in her class.

That is now her fourth time in six months, five for my son since December.

Independent learners well before their time, very proud of their commitment and application.

Must admit, getting end of my tether, as it basically means I also have to isolate as she is too young to be left home alone!!

 

[Manchester1894]

we 100% should have stuck with masks for a fair while yet.

If our health service can cope - it's on people to get vaccinated to avoid any further restrictions.

 

[Tb1981]

My 10-year-old daughter told to isolate for ten days today after a girl tested positive in her class.

That is now her fourth time in six months, five for my son since December.

Independent learners well before their time, very proud of their commitment and application.

Must admit, getting end of my tether, as it basically means I also have to isolate as she is too young to be left home alone!!

I know that feeling
Got my kids off school at moment too
I honestly don’t know how I got through the first lockdown last year