Coronavirus (2021) thread

[The Stockport Iniesta]

It might be nearly twice, but 18% is pretty small, about the same as it was by early May when it had started to creep up again.

Yes thats true, but the new strain is more contagious, so we need to do better than before, not worse.

 

[Eds]

Went out for some exercise today, Cheadle relatively quiet although Kingsway busy, not sure where everyone was going. Didsbury however was teeming with people none of whom cared about how much of the pavement they took up. Ended up walking around the back streets to avoid people. But I did count 22 people in an orderly queue for a coffee. Whilst I understand that independents are struggling, in what world is a coffee shop essential. They should all be closed although I wonder if the government don’t want to bail out companies any longer. The more that open the less they pay out. Why are estate agents open as well or carpet shops. Madness how much retail has suddenly become essential. Vaccine needs to rolled out as quickly as supply allows and people need constantly reminding about social distancing, staying at home etc. And anyone who moans about our so called lockdown should look at lockdowns across Europe and then maybe the moaning might stop

 

[roubaixtuesday]

the other reality is that many of them will have been very elderly with significant underlying health problems who quite likely may not have survived this past year even without Covid.

On average, this isn't true, estimates are around 5-10 years life lost due to each covid death.

 

[BlueHammer85]

still so much focus on the mortality rate.
The whole reason for lockdown is simply to not run out of space in hospitals and having enough beds - that’s what it’s always been about.

 

[Ban-jani]

still so much focus on the mortality rate.
The whole reason for lockdown is simply to not run out of space in hospitals and having enough beds - that’s what it’s always been about.

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

 

[BlueHammer85]

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

Yes, I was aiming my point at those who say it’s only 0.1% and only the old people etc

 

[Healdplace]

On average, this isn't true, estimates are around 5-10 years life lost due to each covid death.

Won't that be skewed somewhat by the fewer but much younger deaths where they lose up to 70 years of life each versus the older ones where it is much less each even if many more?

Not seeking to minimise what I know from my family members who caught it can be nasty. Not the tragic deaths that do occur plenty of which I agree without Covid would not happen. But this is not like many viruses that is indiscriminate in who it takes down with misfortune of genetics or whatever.

It clearly targets the old and unwell. It does so viciously. But its primary motivation and success comes from high infectivity not mortality. In many ways killing the host is an accident.

 

[Ban-jani]

Yes, I was aiming my point at those who say it’s only 0.1% and only the old people etc

I know mate, that’s my point too, you and I that care see 0.1% of those that get it and old people that die as tragedies.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

This is what it is about, you’re absolutely correct but to people who care it’s tragic to see so many souls dying.

No, it's not. That was the plan when herd immunity was the strategy.

Now, the plan is supposed to be to save lives until vaccinated.

The reality is disarray.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Won't that be skewed somewhat by the fewer but much younger deaths where they lose up to 70 years of life each versus the older ones where it is much less each even if many more?

I think that was median