roubaixtuesday
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Why do you make this stuff up?
Nobody, here or anywhere I've seen has advocated for a lock down in the UK since spring.
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Why do you make this stuff up?
Nobody, here or anywhere I've seen has advocated for a lock down in the UK since spring.
Johnny Mars Bar
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I’m being flippant, in case you hadn’t noticed.
This thread has descended from a useful discussion in the early stage, into an unhealthy pit of obsession.
It’s bad for people’s mental health.
Indaparkside
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Well stay off it then and stop posting in it simples
This article in the BBC is worth reading. It's remarkable.
I was seeing the daily Covid figures at 30-35k and assuming everything was static but behind the headline figure look what is happening.
It shows that you can have very high vaccination across the population but if one social group is not vaccinated then it can grow rapidly.
Can anything be done to stop this? Should anything be done? At that age education is very important. Perhaps we just have to wait until it burns out. Teachers or anyone working in that sector need protection.
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I was seeing the daily Covid figures at 30-35k and assuming everything was static but behind the headline figure look what is happening.
It shows that you can have very high vaccination across the population but if one social group is not vaccinated then it can grow rapidly.
Can anything be done to stop this? Should anything be done? At that age education is very important. Perhaps we just have to wait until it burns out. Teachers or anyone working in that sector need protection.
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Look at the BBC article I just posted which shows where the spread in the UK infection is based: basically in those who are very young.
See also this. Look where Covid is now spreading in Manchester. In young children who have returned to school
If the vaccine is declining in effectiveness, and I expect if its, that is not an argument against vaccination, it is an argument for boosters jabs, or further vaccine development.
My friend's uncle died from Covid this week. They were double-vaccinated. Increasingly this will be so as the elderly get double-vaccinated but the infection is sustained at high levels in those groups who are unvaccinated.
bluetonium
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Exactly what we're seeing with our family and school. An outbreak in one year with almost ten children now positive and it seems to have been caused by one child who attended school last week after his brother tested positive, as that is allowed in Stockport currently.
I noticed in the ourworldindata vaccination data that the UK has slipped massively down the vaccination pecking order. Those countries that are right at the top: UAE, Portugal and Spain have very low infection rates but unless you start vaccinating children from aged 5 upwards what can you do here in the UK?
I am confident that this will end as immunity spreads throughout the population but we need to be careful through this Winter. I am not sure what we can do but we need to keep a close eye on the infection rate in children and make sure that it does not spread beyond them. Inevitably it will to a small extent.
THose who suggested vaccinating 12-16 year olds were proven right. How low do you go? It looks to me like children between 5 and 11 are at very high risk now of getting it. They say 1 in 20 children in the UK now have it. I have nephews in this age range. Do we just let it run? If given the choice surely is it better to vaccinate this age group than let them get infected? Difficult. I can see there are pluses and minuses.
I am confident that this will end as immunity spreads throughout the population but we need to be careful through this Winter. I am not sure what we can do but we need to keep a close eye on the infection rate in children and make sure that it does not spread beyond them. Inevitably it will to a small extent.
THose who suggested vaccinating 12-16 year olds were proven right. How low do you go? It looks to me like children between 5 and 11 are at very high risk now of getting it. They say 1 in 20 children in the UK now have it. I have nephews in this age range. Do we just let it run? If given the choice surely is it better to vaccinate this age group than let them get infected? Difficult. I can see there are pluses and minuses.
Covid pandemic is bad for mental health because people just want to get back to being normal people but they can't. We all want to see the end of this. It must be in it last cycle?
Johnny Mars Bar
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People are back to normal. Everything’s open.
I work in events / music and for the most part I’m busier now than I have been for 2 years.
It’s only on this thread that people are obsessing over every tiny little number.
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They have?
We are arguably at, or reaching endemic levels now and hardly any have been vaccinated other than those clinically vulnerable.
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