Coronavirus (2021) thread

[grunge]

I wonder why the mutations seen in Omicron have not been seen in other strains? Hints at an immune-compromised source? If the individual mutations that define Omicron were advantageous then we would have seen them before on purely a statistical basis? In which case I think that each mutation is possibly deleterious or neutral and it is only when they are combined that it confers advantage. This suggests that for it form it would need to be in a single host?

there seem to be 2 trains of thought. Long running infection in a compromised human or jumped to animal and back.

 

[hammocity]

Going to be a lot of bankruptcies in the hospitality industry. Bookings have just fallen of a cliff. Just been in a restaurant with my girls tonight having our pre Christmas meal. A week ago the restaurant was fully booked tonight it was 1/5 full

Yep, a restaurant I go to (booked in Xmas day) was packed two Saturdays ago, I went Saturday gone and there were 9 of us, went past tonight not one person in.

 

[Bluesince1979]

You can’t change rules? Not heard that one. Is it in the Magna Carta?

Don’t accuse others of nonsense when you are head of the class fella, in the corner you go:-)

I actually meant the poster cant change the rules to suit his/her point.

nearly mate! Must try harder

 

[Bluesince1979]

You can’t change rules? Not heard that one. Is it in the Magna Carta?

Don’t accuse others of nonsense when you are head of the class fella, in the corner you go:-)

And if my opinion is that people shouldnt be sent home to die or charged for treatment if they aint jabbed is deemed to be nonsense then the lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.
Always been the trouble with this thread. The vocal few force those with differing opinions out in the end.

 

[Octavian]

I wonder why the mutations seen in Omicron have not been seen in other strains? Hints at an immune-compromised source? If the individual mutations that define Omicron were advantageous then we would have seen them before on purely a statistical basis? In which case I think that each mutation is possibly deleterious or neutral and it is only when they are combined that it confers advantage. This suggests that for it form it would need to be in a single host?

I think I’m right in thinking all, or nearly all, influenza pandemics of the past mutated into a weaker strain eventually, up until a point where we didn’t change our behaviour day to day from the norm. Reading on Spanish Flu last night, by mid 1920 it wasn’t any different from the normal flu in terms of hospitalisations and deaths and therefore wasn’t considered a serious threat. Hopefully Omicron is a sign of this thing doing the same.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

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[blueinsa]

And if my opinion is that people shouldnt be sent home to die or charged for treatment if they aint jabbed is deemed to be nonsense then the lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.
Always been the trouble with this thread. The vocal few force those with differing opinions out in the end.

I Honestly don’t think posters are reading your posts.

You have become a target for daring to suggest we shouldn’t let anyone go without treatment and die, yet you might as well have gone and shit on their front room floors such is their anger at you lol.

Ridiculous at times this thread.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I Honestly don’t think posters are reading your posts.

You have become a target for daring to suggest we shouldn’t let anyone go without treatment and die, yet you might as well have gone and what on their front room floors such is their anger at you lol.

Ridiculous at times this thread.

I picked up on a comment from some crank that people should be told to fuck off home and die if they arent jabbed. I replied that as a civilised country we shouldnt nor wouldnt do that. Also pointed out that we shouldnt charge for service from the nhs as we all pay anyway! I was told i was talking nonsense on that one
If thats marks me out as some sort of ‘covidiot’ then im happy with that

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I Honestly don’t think posters are reading your posts.

You have become a target for daring to suggest we shouldn’t let anyone go without treatment and die, yet you might as well have gone and what on their front room floors such is their anger at you lol.

Ridiculous at times this thread.

People will always get treatment because it would go against the Hippocratic Oath and clinicians’ professional regulation to do otherwise. It isn’t just a matter of policy.

Adults refusing vaccinations and effectively getting 12 year olds to do their civic duty for them is piss poor but we aren’t going enforce vaccinations across society or withdraw treatment.

 

[inchy14]

I picked up on a comment from some crank that people should be told to fuck off home and die if they arent jabbed. I replied that as a civilised country we shouldnt nor wouldnt do that. Also pointed out that we shouldnt charge for service from the nhs as we all pay anyway! I was told i was talking nonsense on that one
If thats marks me out as some sort of ‘covidiot’ then im happy with that

The irony of those saying people should pay treatment is they’ll be the same ones screaming about the NHS getting privatised!!

Also, how the hell does it cost £4K to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks in quarantine!!