Gabriel
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Rather upsetting. Had your wife been exhibiting symptoms as well when she took the first test?
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Don't be so tetchy man. You're being unnecessarily argumentative. I just decided to trust the world leading scientists who took some positivity from the study and you seem to have an issue with that. Why? People sometimes need something to grab onto. Surely you understand that? Being all 'well actually' isn't always appreciated or useful. We're not idiots, we know its early days, but hope is pretty fucking important sometimes.
Tetchy? I'm not tetchy about this stuff mate
Somebody posted a scientific study and then, being somebody who is interested in discussing scientific studies, I started discussing where we are on this scientific study. In a totally dispassionate way, purely interested in the research and the data as I've done hundreds of times across years.
For some reason you took this as some sort of affront because you're attaching some emotion to this paper and are arguing because you felt like somebody broke that by discussing one of the realities. I don't buy into this "don't mention the war" type stuff, that if we just don't talk about something then we can all delusionally pretend that everything is great or fine or whatever. "Don't say this so we don't have to think about it" is not a good position to take.
You say hope is important. Go ahead and hope (although trust me when I say that if you're attaching hope to early papers on a trend then you will definitely be let down). I don't want you to stop, we just approach this news from different angles.
This isn't going to come across well in text but we've known each other long enough now for me not to worry that you'll misinterpret this. In the context of new studies being released, I don't care about people's hope or despair because it is not a useful thing to have in science. In fact the less amount of hope and despair that we have in science then the more rational, more prepared and more educated we generally become. Imagine a world where people stopped making decisions out of fear or anxiety, imagine what that would look like compared to today. We should also point out that a single study has little value but that seems irrelevant at this point.
But anyway from my point of view, I wanted to talk about the study and you guys seem to want to use this study in order to project something on top of it. So you're not really discussing the science, you're more using it to try and make the reality you want to happen happen. And again I have no problem with that but that's not interesting to me. We think very differently about this stuff.
Tetchy? I'm not tetchy about this stuff mate
Somebody posted a scientific study and then, being somebody who is interested in discussing scientific studies, I started discussing where we are on this scientific study. In a totally dispassionate way, purely interested in the research and the data as I've done hundreds of times across years.
For some reason you took this as some sort of affront because you're attaching some emotion to this paper and are arguing because you felt like somebody broke that by discussing one of the realities. I don't buy into this "don't mention the war" type stuff, that if we just don't talk about something then we can all delusionally pretend that everything is great or fine or whatever. "Don't say this so we don't have to think about it" is not a good position to take.
You say hope is important. Go ahead and hope (although trust me when I say that if you're attaching hope to early papers on a trend then you will definitely be let down).
This isn't going to come across well in text but we've known each other long enough now for me not to worry that you'll misinterpret this. In the context of new studies being released, I don't care about people's hope or despair because it is not a useful thing to have in science. In fact the less amount of hope and despair that we have in science then the more rational, more prepared and more educated we generally become. Imagine a world where people stopped making decisions out of fear or anxiety, imagine what that would look like compared to today. We should also point out that a single study has little value but that seems irrelevant at this point.
But anyway from my point of view, I wanted to talk about the study and you guys seem to want to use this study in order to project something on top of it. So you're not really discussing the science, you're more using it to try and make the reality you want to happen happen. And again I have no problem with that but that's not interesting to me. We think very differently about this stuff.
Never mind. You don't get it. With all due respect, we'll leave it there as there's literally no point.
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Summerbuzz
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Finally beat the failing NHS website to book my booster. I'm 40+ but by the time I got round to it, Boris had opened the floodgates. Which is a bit of a pain - this not being a city centre, all appointments are next bloody year, and me COVID passport expires 19th.
Never mind. You don't get it. With all due respect, we'll leave it there as there's literally no point.
No I perfectly understand. I just place value on different things than you. That's not the same thing.
Gogootz
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Empty vessels make the loudest noiseYep. About 90% of adults are vaccinated. It probably feels like there a lot more of these Empty heads about than there are because they tend to be the most vocal about all this
Big notepad, A4 :-)Fair play with regard your honesty.
If I ever found myself in a similar situation I'd probably keep it between me and the wife.
I'm a HGV driver and I've heard stories of having to wrap plastic bags around hard hats to use when things go wrong but jeez....
A fucking notepad hahahahaha
Fair play pal.
tolmie's hairdoo
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Rather upsetting. Had your wife been exhibiting symptoms as well when she took the first test?
Absolutely none. She had lateral flow on the Monday morning before taking our ten-year-old because she had a temperature through the night.
She wasn't even going to have a PCR on the Monday but thought she might as well being with my daughter and driving her.
Still absolutely zero symptoms, two subsequent PCR tests negative, same for laterals, including the rest of the household.
She's not particularly bothered about self-isolating at home with Xmas next week, but it would have been a different matter if we also had to isolate from each other in the house.
oddfellows
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Crazy week for us.
Wife took our daughter for a PCR on Monday because she had symptoms, just to be on safe side.
My daughter tested negative but my wife, who is double jabbed and also had the booster, in addition to having Covid this time last year, tested positive.
We were mystified and distraught in equal measure. Then my wife was worried she had mixed up the sample in the drive through, so she went back for another PCR the following day and tested negative.
I also took my daughter again and she again tested negative, as did both myself and son.
We spoke to Track and Trace and said there must surely be a false positive for my wife, but the person on the other end of the phone insisted the first test took precedent and she must self-isolate, which she had been doing inside the home since Monday, away from the rest of us.
She also tested negative on all the lateral flows she had done, including on the day she went for original PCR test and the subsequent days after.
She went for a third PCR test on the Wednesday and this also came back negative (we did this to establish beyond all doubt that Monday's test was clearly wrong) and mainly to make an informed decision as a family that we would not isolate from each other inside the home longer than the two nights we had already done so.
She is a teacher and takes lateral flows three times a week, as do the rest of us. She will continue to isolate at home until December 23 but it sticks in the throat (pardon the pun) that something wasn't right.
I wonder how many other people get a false positive?
Take the positive that its negative if that makes sense
Really? Should try sitting next to Mrs Damo after a curryEmpty vessels make the loudest noise
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