Coronavirus (2021) thread

[blueparrot]

The longer this goes on the more convinced I am that covid was a leak from the lab in wuhab. In fact it seems MPs have been informed that this was the case.

I question the publics willingness to follow any further restrictions when it's clear that these end variants will keep emerging and the vaccine is ineffective.

I've bolded the made up bits for you.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The problem here is the NHS is not fit for purpose and they are using covid as a smokescreen. We keep being told this new scariant might overwhelm the NHS. The NHS is already overwhelmed. The total number of NHS hospital beds in England has more than halved in the past 30 years, from around 299,000 in 1987/88 to 141,000 in 2019/20. In 1988, the UK population was 56.9 million. Today, it’s 68.4 million.

At the moment more than 10,000 beds are occupied by seniors who are ready to be discharged, but can’t be, because the social care crisis means that there is a massive shortage of carers available to look after seniors in their own homes.

Neither covid nor Winter flu is overwhelming the NHS. It has been systematically destroyed by successive governments. It hasn’t been mismanaged, it has been deliberately undermined

Imposing life-sucking, authoritarian restrictions on society has got nothing to do with protecting the National Health Service or keeping people safe. It’s all about the jabs.

6 million people are still unjabbed in the UK. These are the people that will be blamed and vilified for the reintroduction of lockdowns. Society will be calling for a mandate soon, and play straight in to their hands.

Here what you're saying and agree with most of it. Apart from the unvaccinated bit, across Europe governments are saying its the unvaccinated that are putting needless pressures on their health care systems.

 

[mosssideblue]

There is no way forward for a democratic society apart from that mentioned - IE people living their lives as they see fit.

Then you can look FWD to anarchy

 

[mosssideblue]

The government have brought this on themselves with all the stories coming out about parties last Christmas. People will now be far more cynical about the necessity of any new restrictions on indoor mixing in particular.

Sure the Government have fucked this up big time, but surely you would like to think that people are sensible enough to realise doing as they please will simply prolong things

 

[Bluewonder]

That has never been the way democratic society works and never will be. The only thing that changes is were linees are drawn. There are always rules.

Within the framework of a proportionate legal system, of course.

 

[Forzacitizens]

I've bolded the made up bits for you.

Wuhan lab leak 'now the most likely origin of Covid', MPs told

Dr Alina Chan says there is also a risk that Covid-19 is an engineered virus

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[meltonblue]

The problem here is the NHS is not fit for purpose and they are using covid as a smokescreen. We keep being told this new scariant might overwhelm the NHS. The NHS is already overwhelmed. The total number of NHS hospital beds in England has more than halved in the past 30 years, from around 299,000 in 1987/88 to 141,000 in 2019/20. In 1988, the UK population was 56.9 million. Today, it’s 68.4 million.

At the moment more than 10,000 beds are occupied by seniors who are ready to be discharged, but can’t be, because the social care crisis means that there is a massive shortage of carers available to look after seniors in their own homes.

Neither covid nor Winter flu is overwhelming the NHS. It has been systematically destroyed by successive governments. It hasn’t been mismanaged, it has been deliberately undermined

Imposing life-sucking, authoritarian restrictions on society has got nothing to do with protecting the National Health Service or keeping people safe. It’s all about the jabs.

6 million people are still unjabbed in the UK. These are the people that will be blamed and vilified for the reintroduction of lockdowns. Society will be calling for a mandate soon, and play straight in to their hands.

Ultimately that is the current state of affairs though. That it’s been neglected for years is something that no one in the NHS would argue. They still have to cope with the reality of the situation, and that is that in a large part due to the systemic issues you mention, Covid does have the potential to overwhelm it and with a variant that is so much more transmissible, very quickly.

Getting jabs is absolutely about protecting the nhs. Reducing the admissions from covid, and cases within the nhs itself, is what allows it to continue operating for everything else.

That the root cause is due to endemic issues over decades is absolutely what people should be discussing and addressing as a long term solution. It doesn’t help deal with the immediate consequences though.

 

[blueinsa]

Here what you're saying and agree with most of it. Apart from the unvaccinated bit, across Europe governments are saying its the unvaccinated that are putting needless pressures on their health care systems.

No doubt they are putting pressure on but Joe Public has been putting pressure on the NHS for the last 10 years and long before covid came along. It’s our fault, we have to ease the burden and we have to protect our NHS has been here for years and no doubt will be rammed down our throats for years to come.

The only people who need to protect our NHS are the self serving cunts in Westminster!

 

[Bluesince1979]

Which is your right. It skews your knowledge though.

Ok i’ll re-phrase it. I see negative news. But i dont seek it. Like some

 

[Bluewonder]

Then you can look FWD to anarchy

Yes, that anarchy we lived with pre-March 2020.