Coronavirus (2021) thread

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hammocity said:
Just ad an aside, the landlord of our local pub, the Sycamore in Ashton worked in the lab at Clayton Aniline for many years going back around the late 60’s, he’s called Dave Etchells, also one of my mates (bit younger than me) Nat Gallagher also started his career there around mid eighties, do you know either of them?
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Did Clayton Amiline become Vitacom (part of the British Vita Group) (Bank Street)?
 
Bluewonder said:
You've missed the point. I am saying that lots of this increase could be incidental.
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Perha[s but you are missing mine too. It does not matter if it is incidental as such. Covid positive cases still have to be treated as such due to the huge tramsmissability of Omicron to others - staff and patients in for other reasons. So why they are there really still stresses out Covid wards.
 
Do these new hospital admissions let you know who went in for Covid or if they just happened to have covid but went in for something else? Plenty of drunk accidents over Christmas.
 
Healdplace said:
No you are missing mine. It does not matter if it is incidental as such. Covid positive cases still have to be treated as such due to the huge tramsmissability of Omicron to others - staff and patients in for other reasons. So why they are there really still stresses out Covid wards.
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To an extent, though that may require a rethink of NHS policy as much as anything else.
 
hammocity said:
I’m not sure but funnily enough British Vita had a factory (which is now houses) about half a mile away from where I still live in Ashton-Under-Lyne.
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My dad worked at Vitafoam in Middleton then moved to Vitacom in Clayton. Still got the carbon black in his finger nails 20 years since retiring!
 
Bluewonder said:
To an extent, though that may require a rethink of NHS policy as much as anything else.
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It may but what will drive any restrictions will be if the NHS can manage the inevitabe rise in numbers over the next week or two until this wave subsides.

As I said we need to watch the data on hospitals carefully. Though today is about as good a start as the England creicket team seem to be having. They might still pull it round too. But fans no doubt will be planning for the worst. We should do the same here as once we act rises are already certain for week or so afterward.

There are still unknowns about what happens next. But it is obviously a good sign they are not recalling parliament before New Year as that infers they are hoping as you are these will become just a casedemic and fad quickly as patients enter and exit just days apart and not one that gets serious enough to stretch NHS resources.
 
Healdplace said:
Well 281 patients were added to the 945 in the North West in just the past 24 hours.

That kind of daily level is going to create a numbers problem if it continues whether Omicron or Delta.

North West is set to overtake London now it seems though Midlands are rising fast too. And two weeks on London is still admitting 215 more than discharged today.

So these are all going to tot up fast.

Christmas Day had a recent record of 1281 admissions and you would not expect anyone not very ill to be going in on that day.

Looking at todays patients the admssions today (which are 48 hours behind) are going to be much higher and 2000 a day looks inevitable any day. We had no 1000 admissions for ages until a week or so ago.

As I said we have to watch these numbers very closely now over coming daya as it is hard to see them getting anything but worse.

But I hope your optimism proves correct.
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Optimism based on very promising data I would add.
 
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