Coronavirus (2021) thread

[55yr old teenager]

From what I've seen it's done differently at different places. I got my shot via the national system and could book both jabs at the same time, so at least 12 weeks ahead. My wife has been given a link to the local CCG system and had 4 places to choose from, one had 5 min slots for just the next day and nothing after, one had 5 min slots for up to a week ahead.

From what I've seen it's done differently at different places. I got my shot via the national system and could book both jabs at the same time, so at least 12 weeks ahead. My wife has been given a link to the local CCG system and had 4 places to choose from, one had 5 min slots for just the next day and nothing after, one had 5 min slots for up to a week ahead.

I followed a link sent by my GP. Have tried just using the NHS link. It tells me I am not eligible to book that way, and have to use gp link. This from what I can see restricts you from the possibility of booking in at a different site where there maybe more availability. So basically if you booked through nhs link it is easier for you to get the jab as you are not restricted to one vaccination site. I am only being offered the lifestyle centre at Woodhouse Park, which is clearly fully booked. I now feel at a disadvantage because of this, which is clearly not fair

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

And if you're not in shape and can't have a vaccination? I can't get out and 'enjoy life, hopefully with all the freedoms we are used to?'

I don't get it if you're "not in shape" and "can't have a vaccination" why would you want to go out when you are at serious risk of covid? You seem to be arguing nothing simply because you don't want the vaccine for bullshit reasons. If you are in the higher risk categories for covid there are bigger worries than carrying a vaccine passport.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I followed a link sent by my GP. Have tried just using the NHS link. It tells me I am not eligible to book that way, and have to use gp link. This from what I can see restricts you from the possibility of booking in at a different site where there maybe more availability. So basically if you booked through nhs link it is easier for you to get the jab as you are not restricted to one vaccination site. I am only being offered the lifestyle centre at Woodhouse Park, which is clearly fully booked. I now feel at a disadvantage because of this, which is clearly not fair

I'm sure you'll get a slot eventually. My brother is in a similar situation. His GP is over the border in Rossendale so cannot use the vaccination clinic 500yds from his house (both in GM) and instead keeps getting told he has to go to a site in Darwen which is three bus rides away.

 

[unicorn]

From what I've seen it's done differently at different places. I got my shot via the national system and could book both jabs at the same time, so at least 12 weeks ahead. My wife has been given a link to the local CCG system and had 4 places to choose from, one had 5 min slots for just the next day and nothing after, one had 5 min slots for up to a week ahead.

That's right. The national system allowed me to book the second jab, but had fewer (larger) vaccination sites to choose from; my wife used the local Sheffield CCG system which had more smaller local choices available but will need to book second jab later.

 

[feelymcfeel]

I don't get it if you're "not in shape" and "can't have a vaccination" why would you want to go out when you are at serious risk of covid? You seem to be arguing nothing simply because you don't want the vaccine for bullshit reasons. If you are in the higher risk categories for covid there are bigger worries than carrying a vaccine passport.

I don't think you understand the argument I'm making.

I'm saying that it's simply not on to say - as you have explicitly just done - that people who cannot have a vaccination for whatever reason should simply forfeit their right to enjoy their lives, by 'not going out.'

For the record I am for the vaccine, I will be having it as soon as I'm allowed. What I am not for is the government mandating who can and cannot enjoy their freedoms on the basis of receiving an ostensibly voluntary vaccine, and I am concerned about the precedent this sets.

 

[Tonster]

I don't think you understand the argument I'm making.

I'm saying that it's simply not on to say - as you have explicitly just done - that people who cannot have a vaccination for whatever reason should simply forfeit their right to enjoy their lives, by 'not going out.'

For the record I am for the vaccine, I will be having it as soon as I'm allowed. What I am not for is the government mandating who can and cannot enjoy their freedoms on the basis of receiving an ostensibly voluntary vaccine, and I am concerned about the precedent this sets.

But it’s not ‘the government’ is it. We’re talking at least today about an EU vaccine passport to allow safe travel. Those genuinely medically exempt I’m sure would be still allowed to travel. Just like for travel to other countries for years now that need vaccine proof. If you don’t want yellow fever vaccine for example then you don’t go to countries that require it. Same with this.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I don't think you understand the argument I'm making.

I'm saying that it's simply not on to say - as you have explicitly just done - that people who cannot have a vaccination for whatever reason should simply forfeit their right to enjoy their lives, by 'not going out.'

For the record I am for the vaccine, I will be having it as soon as I'm allowed. What I am not for is the government mandating who can and cannot enjoy their freedoms on the basis of receiving an ostensibly voluntary vaccine.

Of course they can. Governments can and do enforce laws for entry/permissions let alone individual companies and institutions. There are millions of buildings that won't let you in without some kind of permit/identification etc. There are countries that won't ley you in unless proof of inoculation. Some places have a dress code for entry.

Vaccine passports/proof of identity are nothing new, only the scale.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Actually, I think more of us on here said it absolutely would happen. It makes perfect sense to have them and it's been happening for years in regards to other jabs. Take cruises for example, they don't want people getting sick and potentially needing hospitalisation on board.

I use the cruise example because it just popped up on my TV that P&O have announced it.

I'm more concerned of dickheads refusing the vaccine and wishing to spread Covid around the world.

I totally agree but find it laughable that all these vaccine passports and enforcements were dismissed last year and now here we are.

 

[moomba]

Booked my two on NHS England site. First next week at City, second in June local to me. Quite excited about it really.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Haven’t seen it mentioned, so apologies if it has, but it states now quite clearly that the national booking site is open to people 50+, they’ve officially changed it.

 

[Cheesy]

If you don't see a problem with it then you're already too far gone mate.

It's not necessarily what the one certificate says (although any repurcussions from having/not having one are tantamount to discrimination), it's the potential for abuse it carries.

The government have seen exactly what they can get away with in terms of directly impacting your civil liberties, and if you think a government will simply give up that power then you're delusional.

Today you're getting asked for a vaccination certificate, tomorrow you're getting asked for your papers.

I suppose you're the kind of person that is ok with people's emails being accessed, conversations being recorded etc. on the basis that 'nothing to worry about if you've nothing to hide?'

I was going to compose a through reply to this but then I thought I'd just settle with...

What a load of utter bollocks.

 

[feelymcfeel]

I was going to compose a through reply to this but then I thought I'd just settle with...

What a load of utter bollocks.

Which part?

The part about potential for abuse or the part about governments not voluntarily reducing the levels of control they have?

 

[Marvin]

Haven’t seen it mentioned, so apologies if it has, but it states now quite clearly that the national booking site is open to people 50+, they’ve officially changed it.

Thanks for that. I booked my 2nd vaccine online on that web-site.

I got a local Superdrug Chemist 1st June. I put it on my appointment card.

 

[shemnel]

Of course they can. Governments can and do enforce laws for entry/permissions let alone individual companies and institutions. There are millions of buildings that won't let you in without some kind of permit/identification etc. There are countries that won't ley you in unless proof of inoculation. Some places have a dress code for entry.

Vaccine passports/proof of identity are nothing new, only the scale.

how would you feel if vaccine ID was required for public spaces?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Of course they can. Governments can and do enforce laws for entry/permissions let alone individual companies and institutions. There are millions of buildings that won't let you in without some kind of permit/identification etc. There are countries that won't ley you in unless proof of inoculation. Some places have a dress code for entry.

Vaccine passports/proof of identity are nothing new, only the scale.

Precisely, people who object to this clearly don't realise the requirements already in place for everyday entry and travel.

And although not directly related, if you are concerned about infringements and intrusions into your private life the first thing you should do is throw away your smart phone.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

how would you feel if vaccine ID was required for public spaces?

As someone who has been shielding for over a year i'd be ecstatic. Even if i can't go out to think of all those selfless, intelligent people who took the vaccine for not just their benefit but also everyone else's being able to safely enjoy themselves would be a great boost.

 

[feelymcfeel]

As someone who has been shielding for over a year i'd be ecstatic. Even if i can't go out to think of all those selfless, intelligent people who took the vaccine for not just their benefit but also everyone else's being able to safely enjoy themselves would be a great boost.

This seems crazy to me.

You've been shielding for a year with the promise of what? You'd be happy to carry on shielding for the rest of your life?

 

[Rammy Blue]

Thanks for that. I booked my 2nd vaccine online on that web-site.

I got a local Superdrug Chemist 1st June. I put it on my appointment card.

Interesting mate, as it says system is for booking both jabs. Like you, I guess, I’ve just popped my details in (I had 1st jab yesterday) and it brought up appts at beginning of June so I assume it knew I’d had 1st and was offering me dates for 2nd. I haven’t bothered booking as I’m happy to wait to be invited so I can get it at my local centre in Rammy, interesting nonetheless.

 

[Chappie]

This seems crazy to me.

You've been shielding for a year with the promise of what? You'd be happy to carry on shielding for the rest of your life?

Him being able to resume some sort of normality in his life but selfish individuals like you want to put a spanner into the works because you know best.

 

[Marvin]

Interesting mate, as it says system is for booking both jabs. Like you, I guess, I’ve just popped my details in (I had 1st jab yesterday) and it brought up appts at beginning of June so I assume it knew I’d had 1st and was offering me dates for 2nd. I haven’t bothered booking as I’m happy to wait to be invited so I can get it at my local centre in Rammy, interesting nonetheless.

It asked for my postcode and gave me a list of local vaccination centres to choose from so perhaps you can book your local centre? Anyway thanks for the heads up.