Coronavirus (2021) thread

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abu13 said:
I'm hoping that the decision for us to be in Level 3 for as long as we were helps to keep our numbers down, the figures you have quoted for London over the last week show the utter stupidity of the decision to keep them in level 2 for so long.
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I think that is a reasonable hope and often had to explain to people in here why I did not want GM taking out of tier 3 as it was our best hope of getting through the hard months of Jan/Feb (hopefully THE last hard months of pandemic). As it was clear areas on lower tiers were rising too fast even before we knew why. The new variant.

Certainly we have a good shot at minimising the damage. Which is why I have never believed in 'earning' a lower tier to be a good thing, It creates a huge risk factor.

There are so many reasons why the tiers are a bad idea versus national measures. But tier envy is driving huge levels of irresponsibility imo.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Big problem too is that as much as we get to see your really useful stats, the vast majority of the general population don’t.
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I bet those government don't get these figures, @Healdplace looks for them to post here, and there is the issue, the data is available, but how many are actually analysing it ?

You'd like to think someone is, but the way the data gets presented to us by scientists/politicians I get the feeling they aren't, it's always a week behind reality, and for every one of those weeks, it's killing people.
 
kaz7 said:
People need to calm down , rolling out mass vaccination prog is never going to be easy
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i never thought or said it was going to be easy Karen, but not having things in place ready to go a maximum of 48hrs after approval, if the vaccine is available? is not acceptable IMO. We are talking about arranging transport for the vaccine, a place to give it and some one to give the jab. The list of people should be at hand. We are not talking about landing someone on the moon! If its not available for 5 days then thats a separate issue altogether.
 
cleavers said:
I bet those government don't get these figures, @Healdplace looks for them to post here, and there is the issue, the data is available, but how many are actually analysing it ?

You'd like to think someone is, but the way the data gets presented to us by scientists/politicians I get the feeling they aren't, it's always a week behind reality, and for every one of those weeks, it's killing people.
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Yes that worries me too.

What I do is not difficult just time consuming and I have the time and enough understanding of science acquired in the job I had for years to follow data.

But I am not remotely an expert and I really have to believe that someone is doing similar briefings to those who make the decisions both locally and nationally. And I am sure that they must do as it is too important to ignore.

I can only presume they understand things I do not and my guesses about why things that look obvious are not done have reasons I am not qualified to judge and they are.

Because it looks wrong to me does not mean it is wrong.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
One thing about the Oxford vaccine that is puzzling me is why the government didn't place an order with Astra Zeneca to produce say 20 million doses before final approval. It probably was apparent quite a while ago that the vaccine was effective and more or less certain to be approved. At a cost of less than £3 a shot it would have been small change in the overall scheme of things even in the unlikely event that it didn't gain approval.
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They pre-bought 4,530,000 and can manufacture 4,400,000 a week in the UK at the 4 manufacturing facilities.
Any problems will be with batch testing.
 
Mayor West said:
Not necessarily! Up until last this monday just gone I neither knew anyone who's had it or knew of anyone that knows someone that's had it! I'm 100% not defending these selfish pricks but I can see why, if they haven't been exposed to it, they might be less inclined to believe in it.
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I know of 10 people, 5 in their 50s, who’ve had it and all been a little poorly for a few days, but nothing more. And some of them now think it’s all a fuss about nothing. I can well imagine there are lots of people who’s experience of it is either zero or similar to mine. Whole student houses have tested positive but they’ve not been ill. If you don’t watch the news or current affairs, it’s possible to think it’s not too bad.
 
The latest Regional Weekly Pop Score table shows what I expected has occurred. Yorkshire IS now the best region in the UK.

A month ago the NW look set to take that from the South West but the new variant taking off here and not in Yorkshire stopped that it seems.
 
REGIONAL POP SCORE CHANGES TODAY v LAST WK WITH % INCREASE

LOWEST POP SCORE IS BEST

Weekly Pop is cases over past 7 days per 100,000 people. Giving a way to compare different size regions as they go up or down week to week. As you see EVERYONE is going up, NW by second most, and it has slipped behind the North East as well as Yorkshire in last week.




YORKSHIRE 198 v 172 UP 15%

SOUTH WEST 199 v 146 UP 36%

NORTH EAST 239 v 200 UP 20%

NORTH WEST 246 v 191 UP 29%

EAST MIDLANDS 264 v 245 UP 8%

WEST MIDLANDS 291 v 248 UP 18%

SOUTH EAST 517 v 438 UP 18%

EAST 596 v 501 UP 19%

LONDON 859 v 713 UP 20%
 
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artfuldodger said:
I know of 10 people, 5 in their 50s, who’ve had it and all been a little poorly for a few days, but nothing more. And some of them now think it’s all a fuss about nothing. I can well imagine there are lots of people who’s experience of it is either zero or similar to mine. Whole student houses have tested positive but they’ve not been ill. If you don’t watch the news or current affairs, it’s possible to think it’s not too bad.
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I don't know a single person hospitalised never mind seriously ill with it. Everyone I know who has had it has been wiped out for a few days but that's all. Personally, I also lost taste and smell for 8 weeks or so afterwards. All back to normal now thankfully.

Your point about watching the news is probably extremely accurate as well as what the demographic of an individual's friend / family circle is...which leads an individual's assessment of the risk to vary so wildly.
 
I've been following our (LA) daily numbers since we went into tier 4. (zero yesterday)

The rise seems to have at least levelled off, the data on 19th, 20th, and 21st looks a bit weird like there was missing data added on on the 21st, the sudden drop is Christmas day, so I doubt many were tested that day.


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