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England vaccine update:

443, 330 first doses given yesterday - up just under 19,000 on yesterday

774 second doses - down 344 on yesterday

5, 529, 101 in England now had first dose with 441, 074 having both doses


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Sometime today England will have 10% of the entire population vaccinated with at least their first dose.
 
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i8rags said:
Hancock says hopefully schools back by Easter, so that’s tipping us the nod that feb half term is a target already missed.
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He never said that. He said it is impossible to predict at the moment, and they would be constantly looking at the data. Then he was pushed to say about Easter, which he said hopefully
 
BlueAnorak said:
When will we learn?
The whole October/November escalation was the Spanish variant brought back from Spanish holidays in August and September.
I can't wait for the new variant that holiday makers bring back this year. Can you?
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I don't think many people were going on holiday to Spain in August and September as Spain lost its travel corridor at the end of July. Certainly numbers were well well down on what they would normally be.

I would love to see some literature about it though if you have a link?

I'd say the 'eat out to help out' scheme was a lot more damaging for the rise in cases then seen in the following weeks and months.

And where would we draw the line on holidays? People to only move in their county until we're 100% on top of things? UK holidays could well just see us pass the virus round and round these shores.

Very naive to think no foreign travel until 2022, unless that's what you want to happen, rather than your opinion on the travel outlook.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
I don't think many people were going on holiday to Spain in August and September as Spain lost its travel corridor at the end of July. Certainly numbers were well well down on what they would normally be.

I would love to see some literature about it though if you have a link?

I'd say the 'eat out to help out' scheme was a lot more damaging for the rise in cases then seen in the following weeks and months.

And where would we draw the line on holidays? People to only move in their county until we're 100% on top of things? UK holidays could well just see us pass the virus round and round these shores.

Very naive to think no foreign travel until 2022, unless that's what you want to happen, rather than your opinion on the travel outlook.
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People insisting on going abroad in the summer has hugely contributed to the spread in infections , crazy to get in a tin can with 300 other people let alone mixing on holiday , we had a great summer here , we should of told people they couldnt go
 
kaz7 said:
People insisting on going abroad in the summer has hugely contributed to the spread in infections , crazy to get in a tin can with 300 other people let alone mixing on holiday , we had a great summer here , we should of told people they couldnt go
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Have you got something to back up that claim?

In my experiences rules were much more enforced abroad, people respected them more, and due to a lack of holidaymakers it was very easy to keep away from people, no crowds to avoid etc etc

And people were, generally, in countries where the rate of infection was a hell of a lot lower than the UK.

Did you go abroad last year?
 
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Healdplace said:
England vaccine update:

443, 330 first doses given yesterday - up just under 19,000 on yesterday

774 second doses - down 344 on yesterday

5, 529, 101 in England now had first dose with 441, 074 having both doses


NB: -

Sometime today England will have 10% of the entire population vaccinated with at least their first dose.
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Great numbers, especially compared to the disappointing ones last weekend. I'm hopeful that we will have a 600k plus day this week.
 
To be fair hardly anyone I know went abroad for a holiday last year, only one couple in our office and none of my family or friends.
 
England 623 hospital deaths - more details:

Regions: 143 Midlands, 122 South East, 112 London, East 98, North West 61, 47 South West, 40 NE/Yorks

Most in hospital areas:

25 East Kent 24 Birmingham & 18 Sandwell

In North West 13 Liverpool, 10 Wirral, 10 Manchester.
 
Healdplace said:
England vaccine update:

443, 330 first doses given yesterday - up just under 19,000 on yesterday

774 second doses - down 344 on yesterday

5, 529, 101 in England now had first dose with 441, 074 having both doses


NB: -

Sometime today England will have 10% of the entire population vaccinated with at least their first dose.
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Excuse my ignorance, but does that mean we’ll likely see no/hardly any second doses by later this week?
 
England hospital deaths 3 wks v 2 wks v Today:

386 / 45 NW / 12%

508 / 39 NW / 12%

631 / 42 NW/ 7%

623 / 61 NW / 10% Today.


Age ranges of todays 623 deaths.


20 - 39 (4) 0.7%

40 - 59 (52) 8.3%

60 - 79 (226) 36.3%

80 PLUS (341) 54.7%


Very little sign of change in these stats day to day
 
Gabriel said:
Excuse my ignorance, but does that mean we’ll likely see no/hardly any second doses by later this week?
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Yes, because they are only doing second doses of the Pfizer vaccine that started first doses about 6 weeks ago. The Oxford ones came later and nobody is at the 12 weeks before the second of those is due until April.

Most will have the Oxford vaccine in coming weeks as the Pfizer plant in Belgium is being redesigned to up capacity so deliveries to Europe will fall in next few weeks.

Numbers have been falling in all 4 nations of the second doses given for a week or two now.
 
The poor, socially isolated and disadvantaged seem destined to continue to carry the burden for society indefinitely so people with more indulgent lifestyles can 'return to normal'. This all started in as rich people from all over the world descended on an expensive ski-resort in Italy.

I remember watching as it then went back to the major capitals and the east coast. Also the Frat boys in the north west. Then wealthy Americans descended from a decimated New York to Florida. That was right at the start.

Meanwhile millions of the vulnerable and poor have not made it out of their homes in crowded neighbourhoods.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Have you got something to back up that claim?

In my experiences rules were much more enforced abroad, people respected them more, and due to a lack of holidaymakers it was very easy to keep away from people, no crowds to avoid etc etc

And people were, generally, in countries where the rate of infection was a hell of a lot lower than the UK.

Did you go abroad last year?
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No i didnt , i was busy having covid and then long covid

You dont just arrive on a beach , you have to pack into airports and on planes , airports abroad are notorious for being packed , at every step there is no social distancing
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
why wouldnt it be practical. If you can shut some sectors of the economy down completely for 10mthans many others for several mths why cant we shut everything for two weeks. It would take some organising but I genuinely dont see the problem. The benefits would be enormous and we would be out of this much sooner. The alternative is another two or three mths of this misery, high positive cases and very high death tolls. I genuinely think its a no brainer.
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The "getting people to stock up on food" part, for example, I just don't think could work.
 
BlueTG said:
Anyone know of any means to request an antibody test?

I’ve started on lateral flow testing with work now but I’m intrigued having never actually been out of school since this whole show started.
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Sorry if this has been answered but you can request a test at one of the plasma donation centre's, it's expected if you have antibodies you will then donate, the results take about a week to come through. I don't know where you live but there's a NHS Blood Donor Centre at Plymouth Grove, Manchester. The plasma donation takes around 3 hours and you can have several as long as your antibodies are strong enough.
 
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