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squirtyflower said:
She should ask her doctor for advice if she is breastfeeding
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Claytop said:
You're right, no trials were done on pregnant women or ones who were breastfeeding afaik. The breastfeeding one is basically a risk v reward question and they've said to speak to your doctor.
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cheers and cheers, i dont sympathise with the rest of them but with this, i do. A doctor can advise but surely caanot claim evidence where it doesnt exist. Yes, best to refer on, though i can see why she is worried.
 
shemnel said:
cheers and cheers, i dont sympathise with the rest of them but with this, i do. A doctor can advise but surely caanot claim evidence where it doesnt exist. Yes, best to refer on, though i can see why she is worried.
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My daughter is in the same boat.
The PHE advice is to speak to your doctor.

However she is several months off yet from the jab as she’s under 30.
 
squirtyflower said:
My daughter is in the same boat.
The PHE advice is to speak to your doctor.

However she is several months off yet from the jab as she’s under 30.
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aye, my wife's cousin got a 'jab going spare' text. i've told her to speak to her GP but i think the decision will be taken out of her hands (for a couple more months anyway) as the offer will expire before she gets to speak to the doctor
 
shemnel said:
anyone got any good and reassuring links/articles re the vaccine?

my wife's family, big family, is 50/50, with half the family fine with having the jab and half of them really reticent and worried, purely because they perceive it as new, or 'untested' or 'experimental'. Actual scientific papers wont work here, and apparently i'm not getting through to them - any good resources out there?

one more - one of them is breastfeeding, i assume no real trials were done on breastfeeding, as well as pregnant women?
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I'd say the fact that we are the best part of 2 months and 6 million jabs in and there hasn't been a major news story about an adverse reaction should be reassuring enough. Let's be honest the media must have been salivating at the prospect of someone having a serious reaction and would have gone into overdrive if it had happened so the fact we haven't had any stories like that should give them cause for optimism!
 
Bluemoon dan said:
I'd say the fact that we are the best part of 2 months and 6 million jabs in and there hasn't been a major news story about an adverse reaction should be reassuring enough. Let's be honest the media must have been salivating at the prospect of someone having a serious reaction and would have gone into overdrive if it had happened so the fact we haven't had any stories like that should give them cause for optimism!
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i've reiterated this, 'it's just too early to tell long-term effects' is batted straight back at me. to be honest ive tried, ive sent a couple more links, but i shall just give in now.
 
shemnel said:
cheers and cheers, i dont sympathise with the rest of them but with this, i do. A doctor can advise but surely caanot claim evidence where it doesnt exist. Yes, best to refer on, though i can see why she is worried.
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Just from googling on google scholar.

Journal of Clinical Gynecology & Obstetrics editorial
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I think they're saying that there is no known mechanism of risk through breastfeeding. Although not directly measured either.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
i guess this is because they all celebrated after the game ?

Unlike every other team who all socially distance in the changing room and wear masks.
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It was glaringly obvious that there was a total breach of protocol in their case. Way too many people in that changing room.
The fact is their actions have infected themselves and others. Hopefully no one ends up hospitalised because of it.
 
Claytop said:
You're right, no trials were done on pregnant women or ones who were breastfeeding afaik. The breastfeeding one is basically a risk v reward question and they've said to speak to your doctor.
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There was a head of the Royal College of Obs and Gynaecology on the TV last week saying trials on pregnant women were starting. There hasn’t been the time to do such a study yet and I think the researchers would have needed to see how trials involving other sections of the population went first.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
This keeps getting repeated, but I have seen no evidence to support it.
The data hasn't been supplied to regulators yet - Fauci says next week maybe - so end of Feb is going to be the earliest I would expect.
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March. Fauci set out the timeline last Thursday. J&J should have the data it needs to prepare its submission within two weeks (as of last Thursday), after which it will need two more weeks to complete its analysis before it submits. The FDA's analysis of that submission will in turn take around another two weeks, so we're looking at somewhere in March.

J&J expects to have 100 million doses available for the US market alone in April. The UK has an order for 30 million, with I think an option to take 22 million more, but I don't know the timescale.

I'm sure I read that J&J has stockpiled in advance, but quite how much and quite where that is heading is harder to determine.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
This keeps getting repeated, but I have seen no evidence to support it.
The data hasn't been supplied to regulators yet - Fauci says next week maybe - so end of Feb is going to be the earliest I would expect.
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They’ll be doing a rolling review like the other 3 that have been approved

so MHRA and FDA will already have large amounts of data

EMA who knows
 
Gabriel said:
March. Fauci set out the timeline last Thursday. J&J should have the data it needs to prepare its submission within two weeks (as of last Thursday), after which it will need two more weeks to complete its analysis before it submits. The FDA's analysis of that submission will in turn take around another two weeks, so we're looking at somewhere in March.

J&J expects to have 100 million doses available for the US market alone in April. The UK has an order for 30 million, with I think an option to take 22 million more, but I don't know the timescale.

I'm sure I read that J&J has stockpiled in advance, but quite how much and quite where that is heading is harder to determine.
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@Del_Bosque
I agree with both - the poster asserted "early next month" which is not going to happen.

It's possible that it's come from a Telegraph piece a few weeks back which said that the Janssen/J&J vaccine would help meet the mid-February goal.

It may be useful to fill the gap when the AZ doses need directing at 2nd doses rather than new people.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
@Del_Bosque
I agree with both - the poster asserted "early next month" which is not going to happen.

It's possible that it's come from a Telegraph piece a few weeks back which said that the Janssen/J&J vaccine would help meet the mid-February goal.

It may be useful to fill the gap when the AZ doses need directing at 2nd doses rather than new people.
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I suppose it's not entirely impossible to have it available toward the end of Fabruary. If J&J submitted to all three bodies simultaneously, say Feb 18th, then the UK, on current form, is likely to approve it within a week, so if stocks are available, it could be in use before the end of next month.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.
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The damage being done to kids having this long off school is immense. I am seeing it with my own eyes with my kids. is remains an impossible balance but dont under estimate the impact long term of them being off.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.
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It's a shit situation all around, my worry is that schools are a breeding ground for this virus. Kids seem to be asymptomatic towards the virus but then bring it home to their families. On the strength of that alone I can understand people want to close them down.

On the other hand with two Grandkids I am really worried about what they are missing out on, already the best part of a year with a make shift education and now facing another couple of months at least.
 
shemnel said:
anyone got any good and reassuring links/articles re the vaccine?

my wife's family, big family, is 50/50, with half the family fine with having the jab and half of them really reticent and worried, purely because they perceive it as new, or 'untested' or 'experimental'. Actual scientific papers wont work here, and apparently i'm not getting through to them - any good resources out there?

one more - one of them is breastfeeding, i assume no real trials were done on breastfeeding, as well as pregnant women?
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If it helps reassure you, my missus' great grandad (about 97 or something) had his a few weeks ago and he's all good. Her mum has had both of the Pfizer, all good. A mate of ours (young NHS care worker) had hers, all good.
 
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