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roubaixtuesday said:
Here's the data (all settings deaths by day of death). You can clearly see the rate of drop is higher from the 2nd peak

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How is it possible? Some possibilities:

1) Masks
2) Significant proportion of the population immune now
3) Better controls in workplaces
4) Better compliance to the rules

Your guess is as good as mine though.
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Deaths could come down quicker due to the vaccine roll out during this lockdown. Surely its the rate of fall in cases that would be the tell tale in how effective a lockdown would be.

My point still stands tho, a tighter lockdown would have to lead to a steeper fall in cases as there would be less transmission.
 
give it to gordon said:
What are these groups ?

I got a letter saying I am clinically extremely vulnerable and have been shielding. I got a letter on Monday telling me I could book a jab, nearest place was 20 odd miles away and we have snow etc so didnt book. On the Tuesday my surgery phoned asking if I want a jab on Wednesday. So I went down on Thursday and was jabbed :)

Now just waiting to know if I am still to shield after the 21st feb or go back to work.
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Rammy Blue said:
Was just a simple question based on my understanding of the graph, that the numbers of younger people getting hospitalised is still increasing.
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Sorry. Misunderstood. The graph is the proportion of each age - doesn't say either way if the absolute numbers are going up or down. The shift from older to younger is what you'd expect from the vaccination programme.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Weird. Must be to do with not subscribing. I can't find any other articles relating to it at the moment
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www.dailymail.co.uk

UK's Covid R rate now falls below 1 in EVERY region

Department of Health bosses declared another 15,144 coronavirus infections - down almost 21 per cent in a week, meaning 4million Britons have tested positive since the pandemic began.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

this was one I saw , hope it works. It’s free to read shit
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
My point still stands tho, a tighter lockdown would have to lead to a steeper fall in cases as there would be less transmission.
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Yes, absolutely. I think many people feared the lockdown would not be harsh enough to reduce cases with the new variant, and wed end up in a vaccine vs virus race.

There's a tradeoff between how long the lockdown is and how harsh, I guess. Personally I'm very pleasantly surprised how fast and how consistently all the numbers have gone in the right direction.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The grey bits are just the most recent days, which will rise as more deaths are reported. They're not a prediction.

Christmas was a disaster predicted. You can clearly see in the regional data those areas left in tiers 2 and 3 over Christmas suffered far more than the tier 4 areas (which was essentially the same as current lockdown)
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As plenty in here predicted and as the government had to know and so should when this is over be held accountable for deciding to prioritise fulfilling a promise to let Christmas happen knowing it would kill people taking that choice.

But that is for politics and not for now.

There was an out. As I said in here then. Create a new Thanksgiving Bank Holiday for when we got out of the inevitable Winter Wave and vaccinations made a difference. And we could see daylight, To thank all those who got us there - medics, front line workers etc. Most people would have supported that just not the thought of waiting until next Christmas understandably.

We knew it would be early Spring. It would have taken guts to do this and seemed mean and because of the promises made too soon was hard to do instead of giving people Christmas Day but it was the option someone like Churchill would have taken. The brave not popular.

And therein is the problem. Modern life does not create Churchill's. It creates Trumps. This has dogged the pandemic around the world and will still do so even when we here have got out towards the other side.

A global catastrophy needs unity of spirit not party politic blame games.
 
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kevin horlocks wand said:
Anyway happy Friday everyone we are definitely getting on top of this much better times ahead.
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Yep. There's been a good feel about this thread today. Concerns, optimism and encouragement all shared without a falling out. We all have a world we'd like to return to but it doesn't include leaving anyone behind, to get there.
 
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