Coronavirus (2021) thread

[M18CTID]

End of May ish then would you think?

Purely guesswork on my part this, but yes or perhaps a little sooner depending on how quick all the main categories get vaccinated.

 

[johnnytapia]

Is she banned?

She had missed a day of posting worst case scenario and optimism was being given a scintilla of daylight. There was only one outcome

 

[cleavers]

Maybe people who have tested positive?

What about those who have had it, and were never tested ? They get 2 doses, but those that were tested and positive only get one.

This from a country that told us that delaying the second dose was wrong, and that the vaccine we've largely developed isn't fit for their older people.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

This from a country that told us that delaying the second dose was wrong, and that the vaccine we've largely developed isn't fit for their older people.

They're the first country to issue this advice, but it's not they're own making. It's becoming pretty popular consensus. I've no idea how to answer your first question btw.

 

[cleavers]

They're the first country to issue this advice, but it's not they're own making. It's becoming pretty popular consensus. I've no idea how to answer your first question btw.

My point wasn't really about whether it's right or wrong, I'm sure our scientists will be looking at it, more about the hypocrisy of them effectively telling us we were doing it all wrong.

I've no clue what the tweet you posted is telling me, as I've not dug that deep into it all, so nothing in those diagrams makes any sense to me.

On the question I asked, if they tested people for antibodies before they vaccinated, they could perhaps reduce the number of doses required, personally I hope we don't think of doing that, because as I understand it the antibody tests are not 100% accurate either.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

I don’t understand how last year people are saying we lifted restrictions too early? From May - September there was barely any cases/deaths. Second wave came from schools going back/winter period.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I don’t understand how last year people are saying we lifted restrictions too early? From May - September there was barely any cases/deaths. Second wave came from schools going back/winter period.

Yep, big elephant in the room. The thing is until schools go back that's half your workforce not contributing to the economy. I know we have to get the economy going, but the current logic seems to be that lockdown is working so let's not do it anymore!?

 

[Blue Maverick]

I have read suggestions on social media that public sector staff should have a 20% pay cut as it would only be fair. These were serious comments too.

Oh don’t worry the public sector will no doubt be paying for it some way, just like when they paid back the debt caused by the bankers.

 

[Marvin]

The most encouraging report I have read to date:

Guardian discussion with Neil Ferguson

 

[Gabriel]

Wonderful achievement to vaccinate 15 million people in ten weeks. I was wondering, however, does anyone know how quickly the adult population could be vaccinated if supply wasn’t an issue? Is a month unrealistic?

 

[splinter]

Pubs won't open for another 2 months and Hancock says the world will have to live with covid like the flu..

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Wonderful achievement to vaccinate 15 million people in ten weeks. I was wondering, however, does anyone know how quickly the adult population could be vaccinated if supply wasn’t an issue? Is a month unrealistic?

If you are talking first shots then no. It would mean something like 7-9 million administered doses a week but you could easily have mass vaccination centres open 24/7. It won't be a month but it will be far quicker than the government are saying. For once they are under promising and over delivering.

That 15 million in 10 weeks is from a standing start with no mass centres open and limited supply. The current rate is around 3.5 million a week so that time would have been halved at a constant rate. By the end of March supply will have improved and we will also have Moderna to roll out too.

 

[Marvin]

It seems that the vaccination is likely to slow in the 2nd half of February.

Globally the epidemic is falling in most places because so many have had this. The one remaining concern is that it does not evolve beyond us so I think we need to monitor it very carefully. We need to ensure that the epidemic contracts even while we open so that we shut off any potential viral evolution. The only chance Covid-19 has of continuing is by developing new strains that our immune system will struggle with

 

[worsleyweb]

Looks like we are very much over the worst now. With spring around the corner and treatment, testing and vaccination all improving we will get this beaten. Can see a degree of normaility soon and I think 2022 will be normal.

 

[city saint]

Looks like we are very much over the worst now. With spring around the corner and treatment, testing and vaccination all improving we will get this beaten. Can see a degree of normaility soon and I think 2022 will be normal.

lets hope so.we all need something to look forward to.and then city reduce season ticket prices)))) i might even buy the wife a new ironing board if that happens to keep her happy.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

What are all these places that are open and where are they ?

many offices, building sites, garden centres, DIY centres, builders merchants, factories. If we shut everything for 2 weeks I would think the infection rate would plummet. Then we could really get on top of the virus and hopefully return to some normality quicker?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

probably wants to cross town for a shag

hes been doing that anyway, the first lockdown didnt stop him.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

From both the Times & the Telegraph there are two main good news articles & interviews today:

Times: government projections are that the numbers in hospital will have halved in a month as infection rates are falling faster than anticipated.

Telegraph: interview wih Matt Hancock saying that through a combination of vaccinations and new treatments we will be living with Covid as we do with flu by the end of the year. Total eradication is clearly not possible when it is in circulation around the world.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Feeling good tonight! Moving forward. Let kaz back on mods. She drove me mad at times on this thread like everyone but we are all Blue aren’t we??!

Seemed quite stressed and on edge recently, hope she is ok?

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Wonderful achievement to vaccinate 15 million people in ten weeks. I was wondering, however, does anyone know how quickly the adult population could be vaccinated if supply wasn’t an issue? Is a month unrealistic?

The current 7-day moving average is 434K/day so that means 3.038 million/week. This average has been in the range 430-440K/day over the past fortnight so seems to be our current average capacity (weather might have played a role in dampening things down a bit)

There are approximately 17 million in Priority groups 5-9 so at the current rate that would theoretically take 5.5 weeks

There are approx. 21 million in the rest of the adult population so that would theoretically take another 6.8 weeks.

So 12.3 weeks if we could maintain the current rate.

Of course, this assumes that all the remaining 38 million are willing and/or able to be vaccinated, which of course will not be the case.