Coronavirus (2021) thread

[frothy]

Yep check junk mail , got a letter last time but so far nothing !

Got a letter as well this Morning, along with another one asking me to book a appointment for my first Jab which i had 4 weeks ago, sure they know what they are doing so not worried

 

[Rammy Blue]

Might daughter was in her final year, so not lost out on the uniform, but was on her way home from collecting a bloody expensive prom dress the day the lock down was announced which'll never get used!

Yep, I’ve got a £500 prom dress hanging in the spare room that my daughter will never get to wear, we picked it up about 2 weeks before original lockdown.

 

[mancity1]

Perhaps. Far too soon to tell that though.

I suspect if there was a causal link in lasting chronic illness to covid on a large scale it would have come to fruition by now.

No doubt like the cold and mores so influenza its likely to have long term effects on a small portion of the population that contract these viruses but these are largely consist of individuals with pre existing immune issues.

What I am interested in is the study and trial of antivirals in conjunction with zinc especially in early detection of covid and whether large scale treatment in countries has taken place and if its impact on infection is significant but not yet reported by the WHO due to the vaccine rollout in part.

I suspect we will hear more from the WHO on this however its credibility might remain unsure as we remember initially the WHO said covid was not a pandemic and masks were not of any significance initially in reducing transmission due in part because they were getting their information from China.

 

[splinter]

Got a letter as well this Morning, along with another one asking me to book a appointment for my first Jab which i had 4 weeks ago, sure they know what they are doing so not worried

My father exactly the same

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths

By region

85 Midlands, 58 North West, 50 South East, 47 London. 46 NE & Yorkshire, 44 East, 42 South West

Midlands out in front worryingly but the rest bunched remarkably evenly now.

Leicester and Birmingham the two with most deaths 17 and 15.

North West deaths focused on Merseyside with St Helens 10 and only one in double figures and Southport the most.

Pennine acute the most in GM but less than those two.

 

[Healdplace]

My father exactly the same

As I posted at the time I got mine nearly a week after I had the jab. Though posted first class and dated before it I got it the same day as another NHS letter sent second class dated several days after the vaccine one.

So there the problem would be the post office not prioritising these letters as they do not look like anything unusual.

In Scotland they got the NHS to put them in specially marked blue envelopes so they were immediately obvious and told the PO to look out for them and treat them as urgent.

Simple but effective.

Ours look like any old thing from the NHS.

But this delay is very common and I assume its main aim is just to catch those who do not get the phone call or text which is the usual way most people are being called to speed things up.

Or, of course, those who declined at the time but may have changed their mind in the days since with the letter giving them that chance to reconsider.

 

[meltonblue]

I suspect if there was a causal link in lasting chronic illness to covid on a large scale it would have come to fruition by now.

No doubt like the cold and mores so influenza its likely to have long term effects on a small portion of the population that contract these viruses but these are largely consist of individuals with pre existing immune issues.

What I am interested in is the study and trial of antivirals in conjunction with zinc especially in early detection of covid and whether large scale treatment in countries has taken place and if its impact on infection is significant but not yet reported by the WHO due to the vaccine rollout in part.

I suspect we will hear more from the WHO on this however its credibility might remain unsure as we remember initially the WHO said covid was not a pandemic and masks were not of any significance initially in reducing transmission due in part because they were getting their information from China.

It already has to some extent, the numbers having lasting symptoms post six months are looking a lot higher than for flu, for example. There’s a few docs going around for peer review around that.

It will take a while to really understand what that means and how to properly mitigate it, it does mean caution still needs to be considered around cases and may well be needed until at least next winter too.

 

[mancity1]

I suspect if there was a causal link in lasting chronic illness to covid on a large scale it would have come to fruition by now.

No doubt like the cold and mores so influenza its likely to have long term effects on a small portion of the population that contract these viruses but these are largely consist of individuals with pre existing immune issues.

What I am interested in is the study and trial of antivirals in conjunction with zinc especially in early detection of covid and whether large scale treatment in countries has taken place and if its impact on infection is significant but not yet reported by the WHO due to the vaccine rollout in part.

I suspect we will hear more from the WHO on this however its credibility might remain unsure as we remember initially the WHO said covid was not a pandemic and masks were not of any significance initially in reducing transmission due in part because they were getting their information from China.

It already has to some extent, the numbers having lasting symptoms post six months are looking a lot higher than for flu, for example. There’s a few docs going around for peer review around that.

It will take a while to really understand what that means and how to properly mitigate it, it does mean caution still needs to be considered around cases and may well be needed until at least next winter too.

I agree but I also think albeit somewhat counter intuitive to covid's that antivirals should be explored.

Some GP's in Australia I have spoken to would recommend and prescribe it to patients it as they do for other diseases if given regulatory approval to do so.

 

[Healdplace]

England 372 hospital deaths by age

First time the over 80s not under 50% in a while. But only just. Literally.

And note the under 60 proportion is still high. It is the 60 - 79s that is low and they are now almost entirely vaccinated so we may start to see changes here too in coming days and weeks.


20 - 39 (2) 0.5%

40 - 59 (40) 10,8%

60 - 79 (144) 38.7%

80 PLUS (186) 50,0%

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Scotland data:


56 deaths - was 49 last week

655 cases - was 773 last week

4.8% positivity - was 6.0% last week

1076 patients - down 65 in day - was 1383 last week

93 ventilated - down 6 in day - was 100 last week

Just an addition - Scotland's 7 day rolling test positivity rate is now below 5% for the first time this year.

 

[M18CTID]

Cheers , I was after the total number of cases as I suspect around 1 per cent of cases require treatment in hospital.

is that figure of 1 per cent close to the mark in the UK?

Based on these figures then perhaps 1.5 m active cases is close to the mark which I find staggering given only 4.1m total cases recorded to date in over 12 months.

Worldometers is a good source of info for data regarding Covid but for some reason the active cases number is clearly all over the place and is best ignored. While the figure for active cases is obviously wrong, it's nothing to be suspicious of because if you click on Australia and scroll down past all the graphs and charts to "Latest News", it gives a more realistic overview with regards to new cases with 7,4,6,2,6,1, and 6 new cases being reported over the past 7 days making just 32 in total.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

He got new trainers at Xmas, a size too big on purpose (at that age)

Trying on school shoes, most kids still need go to get them fitted.

His blazer is now too short in the arms, a new one will be £90.

£90 for a blazer!! Which school is that and does the PTA have a second hand uniform sale that you can pick something up for if it's for a short time?

 

[Healdplace]

By the way 34 of those 372 England deaths are more than a month old. So there must have been a lot of auditing today.

And that certainly means the more recent death are even lower than this implies

Indeed the last 7 five day totals are:- 346 - 304 -302 - 319 - 288 - 287 - 263

Showing the fall is real and continuing

A month ago the equivalent sequence reads 728 - 690 - 666 - 675 - 691 - 658 - 618

Quite a turnabout in 4 weeks.

 

[N1985]

£90 for a blazer!! Which school is that and does the PTA have a second hand uniform sale that you can pick something up for if it's for a short time?

Hogwarts

 

[antspider]

The number of patients with Covid in England hospitals last night was 14, 137 - with approx 2698 more in the other 3 nations - so 16, 835 in the UK.

A week ago England was at 17, 730, Mr Healdplace weeks ago at 23, 020, 3 weeks ago at 28, 539 and a month ago at 32, 938.

It peaked at around 34, 000 in England in mid January.

Other 3 UK nations have fallen at similar levels in the past month.

The UK peaked at 39, 244 on 18 January - the peak of this current wave. When there were also 856 deaths in England hospitals alone on that actual day - not reported that day. As the daily reported numbers you see in the media are deaths from maybe 30 or 40 separate dates over recent weeks all added up.

Day by day since then both these numbers have plummeted.

The latest 5 day total for England hospitals deaths on a single day - Feb 17 - has just 287 deaths versus that 856 just 4 weeks earlier.

Lockdown and vaccines have changed things in a huge way with patient numbers and deaths in just 4 weeks as you can see.

Ventilated patients have plummeted too. From in England at the peak mid January of 3736 to just 2072 last night

Again these falls are mirrored in hospital data in the other 3 nations.

Hi, cheers for all your great info on this forum...
The numbers you quote for hospital deaths, can you tell me please, are they all deaths or just covid deaths?
The number dropping is clearly very good regardless...

 

[Healdplace]

Hi, cheers for all your great info on this forum...
The numbers you quote for hospital deaths, can you tell me please, are they all deaths or just covid deaths?
The number dropping is clearly very good regardless..

Covid deaths. Everything I post is Covid or designated as such.

Would not be much use otherwise if it included deaths from car crashes or other stuff too.

And sadly total deaths per day will be far higher than single figures or even zero as common in Wales. Scotland, N Ireland etc especially on Mondays.

Though a caveat - if you have Covid, recover and get hit by a bus outside the hospital on the way home it is not beyond the realms covid gets a mention on the death certificate.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths week to week:

875 / 109 NW / 13%

767 / 112 NW / 15%

509 / 109 NW / 21%

474 / 112 NW / 24%

372 / 58 NW / 16% TODAY


That is a very hopeful number for YK and the NW today,

 

[Healdplace]

548 all settings deaths

But 8489 cases!

 

[antspider]

Covid deaths. Everything I post is Covid or designated as such.

Would not be much use otherwise if it included deaths from car crashes or other stuff too.

And sadly total deaths per day will be far higher than single figures or even zero as common in Wales. Scotland, N Ireland etc especially on Mondays.

Though a caveat - if you have Covid, recover and get hit by a bus outside the hospital on the way home it is not beyond the realms covid gets a mention on the death certificate.

Right o, cheers

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Covid deaths. Everything I post is Covid or designated as such.

Would not be much use otherwise if it included deaths from car crashes or other stuff too.

And sadly total deaths per day will be far higher than single figures or even zero as common in Wales. Scotland, N Ireland etc especially on Mondays.

Though a caveat - if you have Covid, recover and get hit by a bus outside the hospital on the way home it is not beyond the realms covid gets a mention on the death certificate.

I like these hit by a bus references. They are normally made by boxers and their followers on social media.