Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

They are being linked to increased testing in schools in the MUEN

Is that the same MEN who told us Bury were in deep trouble a couple of weeks ago - when they had had a few days the week before when numbers were up - but by the time they reported it from the 6 day old numbers Bury was on the up. And now Bury is heading for number 1 in GM in many measures and has the lowest weekly cases already. Something the MEN will likely not report even when they do spot it - next week probably.

I posted in here a couple of days ago that Manchester and Stockport were both on the up in the week since the school returns and this likely was the reason. But that they are not really much of a rise and both are under 100 with a Pop Score which is not at all a concern.

If anything the school return so far has not caused as many cases as I expected. It may yet do so as these would not be an instant thing so the coming week will be telling. But as of now we are pretty flat but have fallen a lot in the past few weeks. And Yorkshire overtook the NW as the most infected region in this past week too.

As I say many times using week old data in a fast moving pandemic can be very misleading. And using it to talk about school returns then hours old in that data - not even a week - would be very misleading.

 

[domalino]

honestly, it’s just bizarre now

The EU has already accidentally released the unredacted AZ contract and we know AZ are completely and utterly protected from being sued either by The EU or individuals receiving the vaccine. Any contract with an individual country is going to be pretty much identical.

 

[JamesMCFC]

honestly, it’s just bizarre now

I honestly think its because it's British and ever since we left the EU they are like an old girlfriend who won't let go so they will try and make your life a misery.

 

[True_Blue69]

honestly, it’s just bizarre now

I was massively against leaving the EU, now I’m starting to thing Farage was right all along. What a bunch of see you next Tuesdays.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Says who? Are these the 5 day old rates the media use or last nights as posted in here.

I post the totally up to date GM numbers every evening in here if you look back and a table of the score per 100,000 population (Pop Scores) watching them go up and down.

Manchester actually has its best numbers since midsummer last year right now and was not even the highest in Greater Manchester yesterday.

Was posted yesterday on the Tameside News

The latest coronavirus infection rates for every borough as five areas see rises

The latest figures show five areas across Greater Manchester experienced increases in infection rates

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[RobMCFC]

Seems like it's not just some of us Blue Mooners that think this is a political move. From the BBC news feed:-

"The decision by some European countries to suspend the rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is a "political one", the director general of Italy's medicines authority AIFA has said."

 

[blueparrot]

I was massively against leaving the EU, now I’m starting to thing Farage was right all along. What a bunch of see you next Tuesdays.

Except It's France a country that is in the EU acting independently as it can not the EU.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The UK's medicines regulator, the European Medicines Agency and the World Health Organisation have all backed the vaccine after several countries paused its rollout.

 

[Healdplace]

I honestly think its because it's British and ever since we left the EU they are like an old girlfriend who won't let go so they will try and make your life a misery.

Cruel as it is there is some irony that the British variant (which is just called that and used as a form of abuse because we happen to have a great science team that can detect these things first) is creating waves across Europe and a British vaccine is successfully fighting it here but elsewhere in the world being 'British' is used as a way to disparage, not encourage.

If this was not such a tragedy as we soar ahead and they stumble it would be amusing.

But it is anything other than that. It is a terrible human catastrophe for Europe - which Brexit or not we are still inexorably part of and should care that the leaders there seem worryingly adept at screwing this pandemic up.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Humans really are a ridiculous species. We're ran by fucking morons at every level.

Anyone that desires power us generally a tit. In any walk of life. Usually a reason why they want to be in charge

as billy connolly said, “anyone that desires to be a politician should be immediately banned from being one”

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The UK's medicines regulator, the European Medicines Agency and the World Health Organisation have all backed the vaccine after several countries paused its rollout.

It's almost like nuanced thinking is required to understand this:

Could, for instance, *all* of the following be true?

- there is an increase in cases of a very rare and sometime fatal blood clot disorder correlated to the vaccine (Germany, extending to many other EU countries)
- this should be investigated seriously
- nevertheless the overall risk/benefit is in favour of continuing to dose the AZ vaccine (WHO, MHRA, EMA)
- but national agencies and advisory committees may disagree with this (France etc) and take different approaches to risk/benefit
- there have been political machinations over AZ vaccine supply
- the suspension of the vaccine is nevertheless based on primarily medical rather than political concerns
- this has nothing to do with Brexit!

 

[Rammy Blue]

Seems like it's not just some of us Blue Mooners that think this is a political move. From the BBC news feed:-

"The decision by some European countries to suspend the rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is a "political one", the director general of Italy's medicines authority AIFA has said."

Was talked about earlier mate, got to be quicker than that in here, lol.

 

[Healdplace]

Was posted yesterday on the Tameside News

The latest coronavirus infection rates for every borough as five areas see rises

The latest figures show five areas across Greater Manchester experienced increases in infection rates

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

And - they conveniently miss - the three days SINCE those numbers posted were all much lower by 25% or so.

I know most people never read the data I post every evening in here for Greater Manchester that tracks it day to day.

That is your choice, of course. And it is hard to read in a big table so I am not saying you all should do. Noir attacking the press as they are by necessity days behind.

But if you want to know what is happening now that is where it is each evening in here. Not in the MEN or local press which is often what was happening a few days ago.

Both matter, obviously. In different ways. But City were not top of the league for most of this season and then they were. The title is awarded on the data as it stands now - not a few games ago.

 

[carlosthejackal]

And - they conveniently miss - the three days SINCE those numbers posted were all much lower by 25% or so.

I know most people never read the data I post every evening in here for Greater Manchester that tracks it day to day.

That is your choice, of course. And it is hard to read in a big table so not saying you all should do.

But if you want to know what is happening now that is where it is. Not in the MEN or local press which is what was happening a few days ago.

Both matter, obviously. In different ways. But City were not top of the league for most of this season and then they were. The title is awarded on the data as it stands now - not a few games ago.

MEN is a shocking paper these days and as for the website!!!!

 

[BlueAnorak]

One year ago today, I started showing symptoms of Covid-19 after a visit to the doctors surgery 3 days before hand and sitting next to a man who had broke his leg skiing in the Italian alps.
A 3 month nightmare followed.
Have your jab, don't let it happen to you.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I honestly think its because it's British and ever since we left the EU they are like an old girlfriend who won't let go so they will try and make your life a misery.

Maybe so and our Government was threatening to attack French fishing boats.

It’s all a bit petty IMHO by the EU and others. Bigger offences have been overlooked like the all the Countries doing sweet FA to help Italy when it was the centre of the pandemic. The self centred approaches have been driven by lack of readiness for the pandemic, including our fraudulent state of readiness assessment.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I was massively against leaving the EU, now I’m starting to thing Farage was right all along. What a bunch of see you next Tuesdays.

Having lived in Brussel, you're right.
They're all about themselves these bureaucrats and the everyday rudeness and arrogance is astounding with these greasy polers

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

1 death - was 3 last week

142 cases - was 166 last week

2.7% positivity - was 3.0% last week

Weekly Pop 40 - up from 39 yesterday - was 44 last week

That Pop rise comes from yesterday's 50% rise in cases. Given the above it will be back down in the 30s tomorrow.

For context in January Wales Weekly Pop was 500. Twelve times now.

 

[mcfc_ms]

And - they conveniently miss - the three days SINCE those numbers posted were all much lower by 25% or so.

I know most people never read the data I post every evening in here for Greater Manchester that tracks it day to day.

That is your choice, of course. And it is hard to read in a big table so I am not saying you all should do. Noir attacking the press as they are by necessity days behind.

But if you want to know what is happening now that is where it is each evening in here. Not in the MEN or local press which is often what was happening a few days ago.

Both matter, obviously. In different ways. But City were not top of the league for most of this season and then they were. The title is awarded on the data as it stands now - not a few games ago.

Thats why I always read your posts. So much more informative than what the shitty press print, often days or weeks behind. Your posts are the ones I always look for the most in the afternoons.

 

[Healdplace]

As feared on BBC just now doctor noting there are reports of people walking out of vaccination centres in the UK refusing to have the vaccine when they hear it is AZ.

If it turns out there is nothing in this the EU will - regardless of their motives - hurt a lot of people and have lost many friends in a nation I am sure they all hope will return one day. Which in the past few weeks they have made less and less likely.