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So the delays are happening becuase of an issue in India.
Why the hell are we not producing the stuff in the UK?
 
In the latest (as in 6 days old) Pop Score data from the 315 England boroughs several GM boroughs have moved upwards a lot.

I put them in order with (in brackets) their status as they are now almost a week later in last nights data.

Rochdale is at 12th scoring shown as 128 and rising (since then fallen 5 days running to 104)

Tameside is at 20th at 116 and rising (since then it has risen steadily to 123 and will be the top GM in next weeks list)

Salford is next at 24th with 112 and rising (since still up a bit and just behind Tameside at 116)

Oldham is next at 30th in the table with 105 and rising (since fallen steadily to 97)

Bolton is at 37th and falling on 97 (since has edged up and is at 101)

Stockport at 38th also on 97 but rising (since fallen every day and is at 85)

Wigan at 39th also on 97 and falling (since it went up to 106 and even beat Manchester on the day with more cases but fell back a but to 101 last night)

Manchester comes in at 45th on 94 and rising (since it has been up and down but last night was still at 94)

Bury is well below at 86th on 71 and falling (since it has risen to 81 but fell back a bit yesterday to 77)

Finally Trafford is at 107th on 59 and rising (since it has fallen every day and is at 43)


You can see why I create an up to date table every night as these last week tables which are used by the government in deciding on regional restrictions can be rather misleading. And certainly not telling you about how these places are doing right now.

For the record other places in the NW of interest:-

Preston at 8th on 132 is in the top 10 as it has been for weeks and the worst NW borough. Though Tameside is closing in on that score.

Bradford at 6th (143), Leeds 27th (107) and Sheffield 4th (96) are the top rated northern cities in Yorkshire.

Rossendale has flared up recently too and in 44th and rising on 94.

Warrington is in 90th on 69, Liverpool way down in 132nd at 52

Everywhere from 20th to 315th now has a Pop Score below 20 and is in the south - mostly the south west.
 
Healdplace said:
74 England hospital deaths. 14 from NW.

Down from 132 and 20 last week.

Another big fall.

Moreover only 37.8% of these deaths were over 80. Lowest I can recall.

13.5 % were under 60.

So 48.7% were aged 60 - 79.
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Really heartening figures.

Bloody well done everyone staying at home doing bugger all.

 
Healdplace said:
In the latest (as in 6 days old) Pop Score data from the 315 England boroughs several GM boroughs have moved upwards a lot.

I put them in order with (in brackets) their status as they are now almost a week later in last nights data.

Rochdale is at 12th scoring shown as 128 and rising (since then fallen 5 days running to 104)

Tameside is at 20th at 116 and rising (since then it has risen steadily to 123 and will be the top GM in next weeks list)

Salford is next at 24th with 112 and rising (since still up a bit and just behind Tameside at 116)

Oldham is next at 30th in the table with 105 and rising (since fallen steadily to 97)

Bolton is at 37th and falling on 97 (since has edged up and is at 101)

Stockport at 38th also on 97 but rising (since fallen every day and is at 85)

Wigan at 39th also on 97 and falling (since it went up to 106 and even beat Manchester on the day with more cases but fell back a but to 101 last night)

Manchester comes in at 45th on 94 and rising (since it has been up and down but last night was still at 94)

Bury is well below at 86th on 71 and falling (since it has risen to 81 but fell back a bit yesterday to 77)

Finally Trafford is at 107th on 59 and rising (since it has fallen every day and is at 43)


You can see why I create an up to date table every night as these last week tables which are used by the government in deciding on regional restrictions can be rather misleading. And certainly not telling you about how these places are doing right now.

For the record other places in the NW of interest:-

Preston at 8th on 132 is in the top 10 as it has been for weeks and the worst NW borough. Though Tameside is closing in on that score.

Bradford at 6th (143), Leeds 27th (107) and Sheffield 4th (96) are the top rated northern cities in Yorkshire.

Rossendale has flared up recently too and in 44th and rising on 94.

Warrington is in 90th on 69, Liverpool way down in 132nd at 52

Everywhere from 20th to 315th now has a Pop Score below 20 and is in the south - mostly the south west.
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may i ask the watchlist you refer to? i can only seem to see the one dated yesterday, with Rochdale at 119 (for example), i expect ive got the wrong link

www.gov.uk

[Withdrawn] Coronavirus cases by local authority: epidemiological data

Weekly watchlist giving epidemiological coronavirus (COVID-19) data for each lower-tier local authority in England.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
That is a good advert but I suspect largely lost on the intended younger age groups and appreciated most by the ones it was not aimed at but planned to protect

At that age you never imagine you will be in your 70s! It is banished from your perception.
 
Healdplace said:
But they will be surely impacted by having an EU country across a barely real border. If vaccinations are not happening fast there then likely there is no way that will not have an effect in the north.
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Ireland case loads are similar to the UK (I don't think NI is much different)

Case loads are more related to lockdown or other restrictions than vaccination yet, so I don't see why this is particularly relevant?

It might even be the other way round if anything - if NI relaxes due to feeling able to tolerate a much higher case load given the vulnerable are vaccinated, then cases will rise and potentially spill over to the Republic?


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shemnel said:
may i ask the watchlist you refer to? i can only seem to see the one dated yesterday, with Rochdale at 119 (for example), i expect ive got the wrong link

www.gov.uk

[Withdrawn] Coronavirus cases by local authority: epidemiological data

Weekly watchlist giving epidemiological coronavirus (COVID-19) data for each lower-tier local authority in England.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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I was not talking about an actual list. Just metaphorically of how they use the finalised data as in these charts to determine if a place or region is going up or down. And have used them as part of the calculation about whether to impose restrictions.

Even the worst right now are not areas of real concern other than relatively. Nowhere near the kind of numbers they used to look for (over 400 or so) to keep a watch on locations.
 
Healdplace said:
I was not talking about an actual list. Just metaphorically of how they use the finalised data as in these charts to determine if a place or region is going up or down. And have used them to impose restrictions.

Even the worst right now are not areas of real concern other than relatively. Nowhere near the kind of numbers they used to look for (over 400 or so) to keep a watch on locations.
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ah, i thought you meant the gov watchlist (as linked). my mistake. anyway, that is a different metric i guess, the cases by specimen date.
 
74 England hospital deaths by region:

21 Midlands, 14 North West, 12 NE & Yorkshire, 10 South East, 9 London, 5 East and 3 South West

Most deaths in one trust - 7 in Manchester.
 
England hospital deaths wk to wk:

407 / 63 NW / 15%

315 / 64 NW / 20% (23 % fall wk to wk)

307 /106 NW / 34% (3 % fall wk to wk)

174 / 40 NW/ 23% (43 % fall wk to wk)

132 / 20 NW / 15% (24 % fall wk to wk)

74 / 14 NW / 19% (44 % fall wk to wk TODAY


Some good falls in last weeks. And in total an 82% fall in five weeks is amazing.

I think the Europeans were looking at the wrong stats when they delayed use of the vaccine.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Ireland case loads are similar to the UK (I don't think NI is much different)

Case loads are more related to lockdown or other restrictions than vaccination yet, so I don't see why this is particularly relevant?

It might even be the other way round if anything - if NI relaxes due to feeling able to tolerate a much higher case load given the vulnerable are vaccinated, then cases will rise and potentially spill over to the Republic?


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Not something which you may have to hand, but are you aware of any information on ROI as far as hospital cases/icu are concerned in comparison to their neighbours in the North or the UK as a whole? Just interested in how things might be comparing with similar lockdowns (I think?) but a vaccine programme accelerated elsewhere.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
So the delays are happening becuase of an issue in India.
Why the hell are we not producing the stuff in the UK?
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We are producing as much as we can.

on a side note. India is the largest manufacturer of medicines in the world and are set up to do very large batch turn over of stuff like this very quickly.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Not something which you may have to hand, but are you aware of any information on ROI as far as hospital cases/icu are concerned in comparison to their neighbours in the North or the UK as a whole? Just interested in how things might be comparing with similar lockdowns (I think?) but a vaccine programme accelerated elsewhere.
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No idea, would have to google
 
The England hospital death data for a Friday - not one of the low days - is really promising.

Many reasons why.

For a start additions from only 11 dates and three of them are in January.

Only 69 of the deaths were in the past 10 days and 71 February or March.

Regularly now (including today) the odd day or so in the past 7 are adding 0 new deaths. A long time since that happened.

The number added on yesterday - just 5 - is the fourth single figure number this week 10 Oct was last time we were getting 5 deaths reported from the day before.

Here are the 5 day totals of England deaths for the last 4 weeks:-

FEB 14 - 20:- 302 - 319 - 288 - 287 - 263 - 234 - 222

FEB21 - 27:- 230 - 184 - 196 - 178 - 166- 158 - 163

FEB 28 - MAR 6:- 155 - 163 - 123 - 123 - 109 - 127 - 98

MAR 7 - 13:- 88 - 107 - 91 - 81 - 90 - 67 - 74

No need to point out the way these falls keep on coming.

And even out the weekend lull in reporting - which is of less impact now that numbers are low anyway.

The first day of the next week of 5 day numbers starting today (Mar 14) is 66 by the way.

For comparison the 5 day total on 19 January - two months ago today - the peak of this wave - was 787.

And the day 1 number then 121 versus 5 today.
 
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