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Manc in London said:
He comes across as a genuine bell end. My first thought is that he is lying
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Same. Genuine bellends exaggerate everything. I know because there are plenty in my own family and I've literally witnessed the occasions that they then later lie about, then called them out on that and they just gaslight the fuck out of you. Everything about that timeline screams knobhead. He's full on crank 'scamdemic'.
 
Anyone know what the state of play is in Portugal? Their numbers are well down in comparison with almost everywhere else in Europe. Are they managing to accelerate their vaccine programme much quicker than others, or are they in a much tighter lockdown than everywhere else? Just seems strange (but positive!) that they're managing to keep it so well under control in comparison to the majority of their neighbours. @AlgarveBlu ?
 
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Another reasonable fall and spread across the regions. England drop to below 3000 patients for first time 6 months. UK patients fell in every nation today too. Ventilators down a little but slower than was. Sub 500 in England and possibly the UK by tomorrow. Admissions too falling down wk on wk. Another good indicator.



UK total:


Patients down to 3545 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 35, 703 in 73 days) :- lowest since 5 October

Ventilators down to 516 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3561 in 67 days) : lowest since 13 October


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

217 Covid admissions (28 March) following 206, 221, 217, 245, 283, 277, 295 in the week before.



PATIENTS:-

Patients down in day by 156 to 2928 v 3763 last week :- lowest since 6 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 31, 408 in 73 days)

Ventilators: down 31 to 470 v 566 last week :- lowest since 14 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3266 in 67 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week


East down 25 to 212 v 345 // down 4 to 42 v 58

London down 21 to 668 v 811 // down 6 to 147 v 169

Midlands down 25 to 606 v 773 // down 7 to 104 v 126

NE & Yorks down 16 to 498 v 616 // down 4 to 75 v 84

North West down 33 to 558 v 693 // down 1 to 68 v 82

South East down 33 to 276 v 377 // down 9 to 22 v 24

South West down 3 to 110 v 148 // stays at 12 v 23`
 
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GM Weekly Pop Scores after today:~

Borough / Score Today / Score 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop scores going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop Score is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.



Oldham 106 / 108 Down 2 Testing positive 9.6%

Bolton 96 / 105 / Down 9 Testing positive 8.9%

Tameside 94 / 110 / Down 16 Testing positive 8.0%

Manchester 94 / 91 / UP 3 Testing positive 9.4%

Rochdale 88 / 109 / Down 21 Testing positive 9.4%

Salford 81 / 88 / Down 7 Testing positive 8.9%

Trafford 75 / 46 / UP 29 Testing positive 6.9%

Wigan 74 / 101 / Down 27 Testing positive 8.7%

Bury 61 / 87 / Down 26 Testing positive 8.9%

Stockport 59 / 79 / Down 10 Testing positive 7.0%


As you see very good day for most places with only Manchester really losing ground today. Stockport and Bury pulling away at the moment with Bury lowest scorer most days and Stockport with a low weekly Pop it has not had since August. Trafford had a better day too and ate back 4 more from the overall Pop lead on Stockport back to 177. May be starting to stabilise again hopefully.

The lowest scorers in the early days of the pandemic have re-established the old normality as numbers have tumbled.

Oldham had a better day and fell a little but is now the only GM borough still over 100.

Weekly cases:- Bury increased its lead to sit on just 117 whilst - at 175 Trafford has catching up to do. At 173 Stockport - though up day to day was well down week to week enough to overtake Trafford and have the second lowest weekly GM cases total for first time in months. Rochdale also joined the sub 200 scrum with 196

Others:- Bolton 278, Manchester 520, Oldham 250. Salford 209, Tameside 213, Wigan 244
 
Had a company talk/presentation at work (zoom at desk) today and one of my colleagues gave a talk on her work on the vaccine rollout programme via the digital sector. She praised highly the work of Dr Emily Lawson (who shuns the media spotlight) and said she was an incredible woman in an incredible team.

If you were witness to all this (and these intelligent, genuine people) and still believed there was some nefarious nature to a mass vaccination program I'd have no other option but to suggest you 'weren't right'', sadly.
 
The figures all heading in the right direction. The only concern I have is I'm not sure they are that much different to last year - when the weather got warmer covid like coughs and colds pretty much disappeared. I think we'll only really know if the vaccine is doing its stuff in Sep/Oct when we (hopefully) don't see the same climb in infections /deaths through the winter.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
are we just going to be surveilled wherever we go now? Can't even go to the pub without movements being tracked.

Whatever happened to freedom and democracy. It's either safe to open up or it isn't. Anything else is a con.
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you are anyway. iPhones and Cameras everywhere. I don’t think the powers to be are that interested in you going down the Kings Arms for a couple pints though.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
are we just going to be surveilled wherever we go now? Can't even go to the pub without movements being tracked.

Whatever happened to freedom and democracy. It's either safe to open up or it isn't. Anything else is a con.
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Can't say I'm bothered, if I'm not doing something I shouldn't be doing, then is it a problem ?

They'll get very bored monitoring me, very very bored, whoever "they" are.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
are we just going to be surveilled wherever we go now? Can't even go to the pub without movements being tracked.

Whatever happened to freedom and democracy. It's either safe to open up or it isn't. Anything else is a con.
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They've just admitted in the last few days that track and trace is largely a failure so I doubt it'll do much good anyway.

And I wouldn't worry too much because it's hardly a bulletproof system, writing 'your' details on a scrap of paper.
 
zerox said:
the only way to stop idiots like above(yorkus porkus) is for the social media sites to be made to verify, just like banks and bookies.
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Bookies were never that keen to do it, unless you had a big win. I know it has changed a bit recently.

17th Jan 2015 6/6 away faves won in the PL - they all decided they wanted to know their customer that evening and took 2 weeks to be paid out as they must have lost millions.
 
crooky said:
They've just admitted in the last few days that track and trace is largely a failure so I doubt it'll do much good anyway.

And I wouldn't worry too much because it's hardly a bulletproof system, writing 'your' details on a scrap of paper.
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Well yes, fake details is one thing, till an undercover cop checks your ID against the manifest let's say. Write your real details down and watch an unscrupulous individual text it to his mates to do a hit on your address whilst he can see you sat in the pub.

It's the principle.
 
somapop said:
Had a company talk/presentation at work (zoom at desk) today and one of my colleagues gave a talk on her work on the vaccine rollout programme via the digital sector. She praised highly the work of Dr Emily Lawson (who shuns the media spotlight) and said she was an incredible woman in an incredible team.

If you were witness to all this (and these intelligent, genuine people) and still believed there was some nefarious nature to a mass vaccination program I'd have no other option but to suggest you 'weren't right'', sadly.
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Conspiracy theories always make me think of the Mitchell & Webb sketches on conspiracies. At the end it all boils down to “why?” - why would all the worlds governments conspire to fuck their counties/economies due to some “fake” virus so that they can... collect dna of their citizens?? (They could do this for the majority of people without manufacturing a pandemic) Drug their citizens?? Again, why?
Also how are China, the UK, USA, Russia, etc all suddenly on the same team in this conspiracy. And how are so many people involved without info leaks.

Practicaly, conspiracies don’t work
 
I think it's quite low numbers for Moderna expected isn't it? 50k a week max?

I think what i'd like to see now is a proper trial of AZ on the SA varient, not the back of a fag packet one that came out the other month.

Some dates on J&J and Novovax

Some more info about the booster jabs for Autumn.
 
Del_Bosque said:
I think it's quite low numbers for Moderna expected isn't it? 50k a week max?

I think what i'd like to see now is a proper trial of AZ on the SA varient, not the back of a fag packet one that came out the other month.

Some dates on J&J and Novovax

Some more info about the booster jabs for Autumn.
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Moderna have started their trial on their variant vaccine.

At the moment Covid is surging across the world but at last vaccine supply is beginning to become more visible. What were national governments doing for the 12 months that it took to develop the vaccines?

It seems to me that the same variants keep arising independently across the world which is quite encouraging because it means that the number of viable forms of the virus is limited and its predicable but its mutation of the existing variants that could create a problem. I particularly do not like the look of that surge in India given that a couple of months ago there was evidence that they were close to herd immunity in some cities.
 
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