Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ayrshire_blue said:
1,129 new infections in Scotland

30 are in people aged 65+ (figure is obviously low but definitely rising with the higher case numbers)
191 aged 45-64

420 aged 25-44
480 aged 0-24 (Inclusive of 231 aged 0-14)

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1 death was aged 85+

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20k first doses (including me and Mrs AB!)
23k second doses

Slight week on week decreases in Glasgow cases, notable week on week increases in Lanarkshire and Lothian areas.
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It is hard to directly compare with the N Ireland weekly data they post daiy as they use the 60 - 79 ad 80 + age ranges, But this has been around 4% of the total for both added together in the past week or so and under 0.5% for a while now in over 80s.

Working out a percentage is the only way to tell if it is moving up or down. And in NI it has definitely been increasing from around 70 to 80% in the under 50s and falling from around 8% to 4 %in the over 60s duringthe past month or so.

But that looks very similar in pattern of ages to me.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
This week compared to last for hospital admissions in Scotland

158 (+15 on previous week)

Ages

85+: 6 (+1)
75-84: 13 (+7)
65-75: 15 (+6)

45-64: 36 (-1)
25-44: 55 (-11)

Under 25s: 33 (+13) this figure of 33 includes 12 kids aged just 0-4.

Don't really know what to take from that, especially the part in the middle.
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Mmm yes that does need watching.
 
South Africa. Spiking. Doing an India. Is this a mid-Winter effect? Hopefully, that is all it is.
 
Healdplace said:
Mmm yes that does need watching.
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12 children aged 0-4 admitted to hospital in just a week, in Scotland alone ? Now that's really worrying as I thought the chances of hospitalisation in those age bands was incredibly low.

I guess it could be they were admitted with non-Covid illness but tested positive with mild Covid symptoms.

Why aren't the media reporting on this and asking questions ?
 
shackattack said:
Based on my own experience the care sector is struggling like most to recruit staff. It's never been a glamorous choice anyway but the recent year or so has possibly put people off even more so.
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Yes, recruitment and retention has been an issue for a long time. As a result, there appear to be a lot of low quality staff in the industry (based on my experience). I guess it doesn't help that care assistants are paid a pittance. The whole sector is a stinking mess,certainly the public sector element.
 
grunge said:
Id say we are far from peaked yet as a country. its mainly hit 1 area of the country that has allowed some semblance of control with surge testing and vaccines. the Delta variant still has the rest of the country to hit yet.

it took nearly 3 months for the Kent variant to spread across the country from the initial epicentre. Delta has been community spread in NW for less than 8 weeks. odds are, and is being assumed by the Gov that the next 3/4 weeks it will hit full community spread in other areas.

Hopefully the fact that we seem to be flattening it well in the NW could help the rest of the country out a lot.
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Out of interest, any info/data clarifying that it has only really hit the NW?
 
Manc in London said:
Yes, recruitment and retention has been an issue for a long time. As a result, there appear to be a lot of low quality staff in the industry (based on my experience). I guess it doesn't help that care assistants are paid a pittance. The whole sector is a stinking mess,certainly the public sector element.
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It's quite unbelievable that Care Homes don't pay a suitable rate for workers when taking into account what they charge residents. My mates Dad was in one until September last year when he died at 88 years old (he'd had Covid but that wasn't the cause). He'd been in the home for many years, my mate had power of attorney over his finances and watched his bank balance reduce from 300k to less than a tenth of that. It was around 3,500 per month at the end, over 100 per day, it's a disgrace the staff are not given decent pay and conditions.
 
hammocity said:
It's quite unbelievable that Care Homes don't pay a suitable rate for workers when taking into account what they charge residents. My mates Dad was in one until September last year when he died at 88 years old (he'd had Covid but that wasn't the cause). He'd been in the home for many years, my mate had power of attorney over his finances and watched his bank balance reduce from 300k to less than a tenth of that. It was around 3,500 per month at the end, over 100 per day, it's a disgrace the staff are not given decent pay and conditions.
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it's a disgrace they are able to charge that much.
 
Manc in London said:
Yes, recruitment and retention has been an issue for a long time. As a result, there appear to be a lot of low quality staff in the industry (based on my experience). I guess it doesn't help that care assistants are paid a pittance. The whole sector is a stinking mess,certainly the public sector element.
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For nursing homes its low pay but vast profits for owners
 
hammocity said:
It's quite unbelievable that Care Homes don't pay a suitable rate for workers when taking into account what they charge residents. My mates Dad was in one until September last year when he died at 88 years old (he'd had Covid but that wasn't the cause). He'd been in the home for many years, my mate had power of attorney over his finances and watched his bank balance reduce from 300k to less than a tenth of that. It was around 3,500 per month at the end, over 100 per day, it's a disgrace the staff are not given decent pay and conditions.
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My nanna is in a council one. But because she worked all her life and owned a house she has to pay. £850 a week. Every week.
once her savings have gone the house she worked hard for will have to go too.

we went to visit some that were £2000 a week!!!
 
The infection rates seen in children are not due to surge testing concentrated on schools. It's real.

How do we know? From samples where the same distribution that we see on the age heat maps is seen again.

From the React Study that came out this morning...

"We observed that growth was being driven by younger age groups, with five-fold higher rates of swab-positivity among younger children (ages 5 to 12 years) and young adults (18 to 24 years) compared with those aged 65 years and older, and 2.5-fold higher rates among those below 50 years compared with those 50 years and above. These age patterns suggest that recent expansion of the vaccine programme to those aged 18 years and above [14] should help substantially to reduce the overall growth of the epidemic. The observed patterns may reflect increased social interactions among children and young adults as schools remain open and lockdown eases, as well as high vaccine uptake among older people"

Oh and the R rate is at 1.44.

But signs its slowing. For a really excellent synopsis see the main article on BBC News...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57504172

I feel this may be the endgame of this epidemic. Its last throw of the dice which takes into the wonderful world of herd immunity or is that just Alice through the looking glass?
 
marcus said:
My nanna is in a council one. But because she worked all her life and owned a house she has to pay. £850 a week. Every week.
once her savings have gone the house she worked hard for will have to go too.

we went to visit some that were £2000 a week!!!
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Very similar prices to my mate's, your nana will have 23k ring fenced to pass on in her will. It's extortionate money and I'll be getting as much equity out of my house to pay for early retirement (only 2 years early)
 
hammocity said:
Very similar prices to my mate's, your nana will have 23k ring fenced to pass on in her will. It's extortionate money and I'll be getting as much equity out of my house to pay for early retirement (only 2 years early)
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In fairness she could have done things so much differently to protect her money when she was of more sound mind. She was tight as a wet knot all her life and now she has no clue what money is its disappearing at a rapid rate.
her Money though sooo….
 
hammocity said:
It's quite unbelievable that Care Homes don't pay a suitable rate for workers when taking into account what they charge residents. My mates Dad was in one until September last year when he died at 88 years old (he'd had Covid but that wasn't the cause). He'd been in the home for many years, my mate had power of attorney over his finances and watched his bank balance reduce from 300k to less than a tenth of that. It was around 3,500 per month at the end, over 100 per day, it's a disgrace the staff are not given decent pay and conditions.
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For that amount of money could your mate not have given up work to look after his dad?

Or were there other reasons it cost £3500 a month to look after him
 
mayo31 said:
For that amount of money could your mate not have given up work to look after his dad?

Or were there other reasons it cost £3500 a month to look after him
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He wasn't that close to his dad, he'd seen him smack his mum a few times before they were divorced, his Dad remarried and took on two stepdaughters. The three step siblings agreed the inheritance would be shared but when the Dad went into a home only my mate had the inclination to deal with the money side. He was a bit of a dick tbh, before the dementia really kicked in he was drinking a bottle of whisky everyday.
 
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